Punctuation

Title pretty self explanatory. But for example I see long tweets all the time without any type of punctuation and I can’t read through it. If it’s that you’re running out of characters please take out a short word and put in some periods or commas so your text resemble any sort of coherent thought.

I assume, ! ? , . came from Latin, if wrong, then pretend I wrote the correct language in the title.

I'm curious because, for example, Chinese, have works of literature older than centuries, and I wonder what symbols did the author use when the characters inside their stories asked a question, or ordering someone.

The trend of not using any punctuation in a post or comment is so silly. I know some people do this as an effect to show they’re really excited about something. But I shouldn’t have to read your post four times to understand what you’re trying to say. A couple of periods here and there go a long way.

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I can’t overstate this enough. It’s a subtle nuance, but it demonstrates maturity, thoughtfulness and intelligence. It will help you stand out in a crowd of people that often cut corners. It shows that you’re willing to take your time to express yourself properly, and good communication is a pillar of a strong and healthy relationship, so it’s an attractive quality. Back in the peak of my online dating days, I often got comments from people expressing appreciation for chatting with some one that could chat in complete sentences. I realize that this doesn’t come by easily to some people, and bad habits die hard, but I think you’ll find that the effort will pay off if you’re willing to give it your best shot. Also, try to throw in some emojis once in a while, so you don’t come across as intellectual.

Edit: I agree with most of you saying that it isn’t/shouldn’t be a deal breaker; I’m not saying it should be. It also doesn’t have to be perfect 100% of the time. Conversation should feel organic and natural, not forced. All I’m saying is that it’s a good habit to get into because it’s an attractive habit to have. It’s the same reason why you wouldn’t fart on the first date. Everyone does it, it’s natural, but don’t you want to take that extra little bit of effort to look a little better? Sure, it’s important to feel free to be yourself, but there are certain habits that will help you gain a person’s attention and not turn them off.

Edit 2: Some people seem to be interpreting my advice in the extreme. I’m not saying you should be 100% perfect like an academic essay. Slang is fine, little mistakes are fine. I’m just saying that if you take an extra 5 seconds to correct major mistakes, and put just a little bit of effort into saying “you’re” instead of “ur”, people will take you more seriously and are more likely to engage with you in meaningful conversation. This is a generalization, of course. It’s not the be all and end all of discourse, it won’t save a failing marriage or make some one fall in love with you, but it will help you maintain more interesting conversations with more people, overall. You don’t have to be picture perfect, but people DO notice if you’re texting is sloppy, careless and lazy. To all the naysayers, I ask you, what do you have to lose? Just try it. Every little bit helps, right? Surely the amount of comments here supporting this theory justify giving it a shot. Next time you want to message some one you’re interested in, instead of sayi

You can be a spelling bee champion 6 years in a row. You can be the top linguist in your class. But that's all based on your punctuation. I've scrolled through social media a lot, and I can say that the lack of punctuation makes paragraphs extremely hard to read. It is very difficult to keep track of what line you're on, and it is also really hard to see someone's thought process in an organized way. One big, continuous thought happens to be very overwhelming to read. Learn how to use your punctuation while writing extended posts! It'll go such a long way!

I've been thinking about it, so I'm asking you guys. Oh, and explain why please.

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And you had better say no you haven't.

when I saw the post, I realized that when I see grammar or spelling mistakes I get infuriated. I cant post or send a message without checking my grammar and spelling

also, if I misspell a word, I can FEEL that something about it is wrong

is this just a habit i picked up in school, or does this have something to do with my ADD?

edit: just noticed (and edited) a few grammar mistakes in this post... ironic

So there was a post the other day about things that are clearly different between English and French. One person responded saying that punctuation was different. What are the general rules for putting spaces around punctuation marks?

 

Do we put a space before a question mark like this ?

 

How about commas , is there a space before a comma?

 

I'm pretty sure there isn't a space before a period, but I want to be sure .

 

Any other suggestions/differences?

The Zodiac 340 cypher has been cracked. The cypher was not uniform, and required different techniques to crack different portions of the message.

His message does not include punctuation. As a result, the meaning of some lines are not clear. What do you think he was trying to say?

Here is the cracked cypher, with each line numbered:

1. I HOPE YOU ARE HAVING LOTS OF FUN IN TRYING TO CATCH ME
2. THAT WASNT ME ON THE TV SHOW
3. WHICH BRINGS UP A POINT ABOUT ME
4. I AM NOT AFRAID OF THE GAS CHAMBER
5. BECAUSE IT WILL SEND ME TO PARADICE ALL THE SOONER
6. BECAUSE I NOW HAVE ENOUGH SLAVES TO WORK FOR ME
7. WHERE EVERYONE ELSE HAS NOTHING WHEN THEY REACH PARADICE
8. SO THEY ARE AFRAID OF DEATH
9. I AM NOT AFRAID BECAUSE I KNOW THAT MY NEW LIFE IS
10. LIFE WILL BE AN EASY ONE IN PARADICE DEATH

Some possible interpretations, lines 9-10:

• "I am not afraid because I know that my new life will be an easy one in paradice. Life is death."In the cypher, line 10 ("Life will be an easy one in paradice death") was spelled out "
  in the clear", not using the diagonal coding used for other parts of the message (though some words were backwards).In the diagonal portion of the cypher,"Life is" was also spelled out "in the clear" in the upper corner of the grid. This could be a clue that "life is" is meant to be separate from line 9.
• "I am not afraid because I know my new life is. Life will be an easy one in Paradice Death."
  Here, "is" might be a standalone verb, similar to saying "my new life exists". "Paradice Death" could be a proper noun.
• "I am not afraid because I know my new life is life; will be an easy one in Paradice Death."
  A colon was implied in lines 3-4 ("which brings up a point about me: I am not afraid of the gas chamber"), so it is possible that a semicolon is implied in line 10.

Excluding lines 9-10, I think a punctuated message would be:

"I hope you are having lots of fun trying to catch me. That wasn't me on the TV show, which brings up a point about me: I am not afraid of the gas chamber, because it will send me to Paradice all the sooner, because I now have enough slaves to work for me, where everyone else has nothing when they reach Paradice, so they are afraid of death."

What are your thoughts?

Why YSK: Nearly all style guides agree that one space is correct. The Publication Manual of the American Psychological Association (APA) was the only style guide that overtly recommended two spaces after a period, and even that long-time holdout for two spaces changed its guideline to one space in its 2019 update.

Apparently we as a society used to do this in the age of the typewriter because the spacing was not big enough to appear correctly. If you use two spaces now, it indicates that you learned to type on a typewriter or from someone who did. I just discovered this and had to fix every sentence in this post. Am I alone on this?

The line is from a Japanese video game. It's been localized into English. I'm trying to get Chinese translation with correct punctuation based on Japanese original. I did find a traditional Chinese fansub translation on bilibili but I'm not sure if punctuation is correct and it merged 2 sentences together whereas I only want 1 sentence and not the other half.

Screenshot (Japanese with traditional Chinese fansub)

Video at 3:04 contains sentence (where screenshot comes from)

Original Japanese: 敵を引き裂き、屠り、喰らえ。(tho in video it completely omits punctuation, using a big space instead for 、)

English localization: Rend... Slaughter... Devour your enemies.

Chinese fansub: 惡魔靠互相吞噬來獲取力量，所以去撕裂敵人，盡情屠殺和吃掉他們。(it merged the sentence right before what I want with it, I don't want first half)

So I only want to the take part I want from fansub sentence to make it its own sentence (just like the Japanese and English versions). So there's 2 things I'm not sure about and need help with:

1. Can I omit 去 at start or do I need to keep it? This is an imperative sentence.

撕裂敵人，盡情屠殺和吃掉他們。

去撕裂敵人，盡情屠殺和吃掉他們。

Which is more correct and natural sounding?

2. I'm not sure if the traditional Chinese fansub punctuation is correct. Shouldn't it be a 頓號 instead of 逗號 because it is list of items despite being verbs? ("Tear your enemies, kill them to heart's content, and eat them.)

惡魔靠互相吞噬來獲取力量，所以去撕裂敵人、盡情屠殺和吃掉他們。

Would this be correct? I replaced last 逗號 with 頓號. Or would fansub's 逗號 actually be correct?

So based on those 2 points, if I were to guess...I think it would be this but I'm not sure and need confirmation/correction:

撕裂敵人、盡情屠殺和吃掉他們。

Thanks for any help! Sorry about the morbid sentence hahaha, but it's a great game if anyone still has a PS2!

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No, it’s not petty, pedantic, or nit-picking.

Proofread your post. Use spell-check on it. Read it a few times, especially if it is an emotional and/or lengthy post. Even if it is only one word, take a moment and get it right. Little omissions like the word “not” make big changes to the meaning of your oh-so-important contributions. Then, after it is posted for all the world to see, read it again and edit it if you screwed it up.

TL;DR: If you want your post to be received well, do a good job writing it.

Hi, i've been using halmak for 2.5 years, but i want something more efficient, and made with ortho boards in mind.

A lot of layouts seem to be even better without moving the shortcut and punctuation keys around, which makes we wonder what would happen if the design completely disregarded this preservation. Surely we can do even better than the colemak dh, right?

Some may believe it's not worth it to move these keys around, but I'm not one of them. It's easy enough to get this functionality back with qmk, which is running on all my keyboards.

So, as the title asks, is there a layout that disregards shortcut and punctuation Keys for maximum efficiency on ortho boards?