Meta PSA: telling fellow vegans on this sub to dump their omnivore partners is presumptuous, rude to your fellow vegan, and toxic to the cause.

My husband still eats meat. I have noticed that whenever I mention that on this sub - usually in passing and with zero additional context about our relationship - I quickly receive several responses that typically fall into one of these general categories:

  • "ew, really?"
  • "dump him, he's omniscum"
  • "i question your commitment to the cause if you think it's okay to date an omni"

While these responses are slightly more acceptable on r/VCJ, I really hate seeing them here. I suspect that they primarily come from very young people who have never been in a long-term committed relationship and don't understand how not black and white love is.

Here's my personal story: we've been together for 5 years, I've been vegan for ~16 months. He has his flaws like we all do, but he's pretty much just a kind, mature, responsible adult; a rock-solid partner; and deeply committed to our relationship. The absolute love of my life. He also happens to still be in the place that most of us once were before we were vegan.

Obviously I would prefer that he join me. But the reality is that he didn't want to, and I was okay with that. Why? Because I knew that if I pressured him into it from that place, he would resent the shit out of me. We talk about it a good bit, and despite the fact that he supports my choice and agrees that it's the morally correct thing to do, he still doesn't want to do it himself. Doesn't mean I'll ever stop chipping away at him, but I am not going to force him to change. For the sake of his hypothetical success and our relationship, it must be his decision.

How many of you have cut off a parent or sibling solely because they didn't go vegan with you? The thought is probably unfathomable to most. And personally, I would never consider disentangling my life from my husband solely because he won't give up meat.

The cause gains nothing when we cut off a loved one solely because they still eat animals, or suggest doing so to others. One, because self-isolating is a terrible strategy for recruiting new vegans. Two, because it makes outsiders reading the sub think we're judgmental idiots (which many of them already thought anyway). Three, because our loved ones are the people we can influence the most. My husband has repeatedly told me how much me simply existing as a vegan under the same roof has made him think about his position. I consider that a massive win.

I am NOT saying that anyone is wrong for treating veganism as a relationship dealbrea

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Why do I hate vegetarians more than omnivores?
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The duality of some omnivores
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One Vegan vs. Ten omnivores, but the vegan has the lifeblood of 1000 soy beans on their side.
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I have figured it out. Exvegans is just an omnivore circle jerk

I think we’ve been duped boys. They’re so good at circle jerking that even we can’t see it

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Chickens are omnivores and cannibals gfycat.com/obedienthighle…
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High-Protein Plant-Based Diet Versus a Protein-Matched Omnivorous Diet to Support Resistance Training Adaptations: A Comparison Between Habitual Vegans and Omnivores

β€œ Background Acute protein turnover studies suggest lower anabolic response after ingestion of plant vs. animal proteins. However, the effects of an exclusively plant-based protein diet on resistance training-induced adaptations are under investigation.

Objective To investigate the effects of dietary protein source [exclusively plant-based vs. mixed diet] on changes in muscle mass and strength in healthy young men undertaking resistance training.

Methods Nineteen young men who were habitual vegans (VEG 26 ± 5 years; 72.7 ± 7.1 kg, 22.9 ± 2.3 kg/m2) and nineteen young men who were omnivores (OMN 26 ± 4 years; 73.3 ± 7.8 kg, 23.6 ± 2.3 kg/m2) undertook a 12-week, twice weekly, supervised resistance training program. Habitual protein intake was assessed at baseline and adjusted to 1.6 g kgβˆ’1 dayβˆ’1 via supplemental protein (soy for VEG or whey for OMN). Dietary intake was monitored every four weeks during the intervention. Leg lean mass, whole muscle, and muscle fiber cross-sectional area (CSA), as well as leg-press 1RM were assessed before (PRE) and after the intervention (POST).

Results Both groups showed significant (all p < 0.05) PRE-to-POST increases in leg lean mass (VEG: 1.2 ± 1.0 kg; OMN: 1.2 ± 0.8 kg), rectus femoris CSA (VEG: 1.0 ± 0.6 cm2; OMN: 0.9 ± 0.5 cm2), vastus lateralis CSA (VEG: 2.2 ± 1.1 cm2; OMN: 2.8 ± 1.0 cm2), vastus lateralis muscle fiber type I (VEG: 741 ± 323 Β΅m2; OMN: 677 ± 617 Β΅m2) and type II CSA (VEG: 921 ± 458 Β΅m2; OMN: 844 ± 638 Β΅m2), and leg-press 1RM (VEG: 97 ± 38 kg; OMN: 117 ± 35 kg), with no between-group differences for any of the variables (all p > 0.05).

Conclusion A high-protein (~ 1.6 g kgβˆ’1 dayβˆ’1), exclusively plant-based diet (plant-based whole foods + soy protein isolate supplementation) is not different than a protein-matched mixed diet (mixed whole foods + whey protein supplementation) in supporting muscle strength and mass accrual, suggesting that protein source does not affect resistance training-induced adaptations in untrained young men consuming adequate amounts of protein.”

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40279-021-01434-9

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Adapting to life as an omnivore, after nearly two years of strict veganism

Almost two years ago I became vegan. Not plant-based, but completely vegan. I decided that I no longer wanted to be complicit in animal abuse. I donated nearly anything that I had animal products and slowly learned how to cook vegan alternatives for foods I enjoyed.

My whole identity became about being vegan. I bought vegan shirts, had a vegan decal on my car, even changed my social accounts to reflect my new veganism. My son, who always loved my cooking, dealt well with my now vegan cooking and was very supportive. In time I was able to find acceptable alternatives for him, though he never really enjoyed my vegan burgers. When he'd go to his mom's, he'd be ravenous for meat.

I was never preachy about my veganism, instead tried to be the type that cooks for others. Yet, my social life took a hit. Forget about dating. Every vegan woman seemed to only want to convert a savage omni, and every non-vegan woman would politely enjoy a meal or two, but lose interest over dining limitations. So much about social interaction revolves around food. Not to mention the lack of exercise available over the pandemic, and cooking more higher carb food definitely has made me thicker in a dad bod way. I never even got to find out if being vegan actually improved "performance" as I never got the chance with anyone.

After months of arguing with my son's mom over what I was feeding him, being hated for simply being a vegan, and so many limitations on my life, I grew tired of the whole thing. I reached out to the vegan community, only to be chastised for not caring enough about the animals. Humans are animals too, and I'm not going to prioritize farm animals over humans. So many vegans are just toxic and self-righteous. I had people arguing that I wasn't a real vegan because I cooked Beyond Burgers for my son, and they aren't "truly" vegan. Also, so many vegans are anti-vax, and would prefer to let humans die. Everyone was always moving the goal post to be a true vegan, and I just gave up on the whole thing.

I've been a despicable omni again for about a month now. At first I thought I would just be plant-based, but I'm eating all the animal products again. I just made myself huevos rancheros for breakfast and enjoyed it. I'd forgotten how good it all tastes. My son is loving my new cooking style, having learned so much about seasoning food. He has his favorite turkey bacon cheeseburgers again. The weight is starting to come off, too.

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Guys we need to start calling ourselves the omnivores.

Bro I mean. Someone asks you what your sexuality is "Oh I'm an omnivore. when it comes to humans."

You dont have to call yourself this but I know I am.

Btw the way to make the omni flag w emojis is this: πŸ’—πŸ’–πŸ’œπŸ’™πŸ’Ž

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Stop calling them "Omnis / Omnivores"

Use carnism / carnist. An 'ism' denotes a belief system and 'omnivore' describes a beings biological predisposition. This is not about biology it is about belief , People do not eat non-human animals because they NEED to, they do it because they CHOOSE to. Language can be powerful and this is something that needs to be addressed.

I am not the best explaining things but definitely look up Dr. Melanie Joy and her work to get a better and more in depth explanation into why this is important.

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Just finished Omnivore's Dilemma, it was my first M. Pollan book and purchase from thriftbooks.com I say good read.
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The Omnivore

Just for funsies

Im trying writing with dialogue for a change.

One shot

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Dave greeted his new colleages warmly, trying to hide his first-day nerves.

They were quite a mixed bunch of aliens out here on this isolated orbital mining platform. Tall and short, civilised and rough, aloof and boisterous, there were no two the same.

They were there to operate the drones that worked on the gas giant planet below, three shifts of twenty, three overseers and seven support staff.

Boring stuff, but it paid well.

More importantly to Dave, no one cared what your background was so long as you could do the job. No one cared about the obvious inconsistencies in his resume, the petty warrants that would net a few credits for his whereabouts.

They were probably even in the same boat as him, so to speak.

After introductions, everyone went back to their tasks except one of the overseers, who showed Dave to his bunk, did a short tour and then a longer safety briefing.

Everything was going fine until lunch.

The mess hall was small and clearly well used. Paint scuffed to bare metal and then scuffed further to almost a grey on every surface.

Dave grabbed a tray and lined up behind the overseer. The server looked up warily.

"New guy? herbivore or carnivore?"

"Omnivore."

"Sorry, that didn't translate, herbivore or carnivore?"

"Both."

The alien just looked at Dave blankly, before sighing deeply.

"Look, new guy, I appreciate you trying to lighten the mood but I have people to feed. Tell me what to give you and we can joke around in my off time."

"I'm not being funny with you, feed me both."

"You cant have two serves!"

"No, Give me half a serve of each."

The alien recoiled in disgust.

"No half serves, we cant cross contaminate for the herbivores, besides, it makes planning how much I need to make each meal all screwy."

Overhearing all of this, the overseer offered his own solution.

"Cant you just chose one?"

"No, unless you want me to be unwell and unable to work." Technically the truth, Dave wasn't going to do shit if he was forced to give up steak.

Confused, the overseer continued. "So are you a predator species or pre.. err, herd species?"

"Both."

Great. Now everyone was looking on bemused. So much for a low key first day.

After a moment of thoughtful silence, the overseer piped up again.

"Well, you are just going to have to alternate every meal."

The server blanched, but said nothing.

Wishing to get out of

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Vegans and omnivores debating online vs. IRL v.redd.it/ok0b1wojzgc61
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What do you think that the conversion rate from omnivore to vegan is of people who watch Earthlings / Dominion?

If 100 people watch one of those documentaries, how many do you expect would become vegan after doing so?

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Italian eggplant casserole that my omnivores L-O-V-E too! reddit.com/gallery/l2e4eg
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Omnivores of Reddit, what's the serious reason you are not going vegetarian or vegan?
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omnivore bingo. vegan btw
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Herbivore becomes Omnivores

Is there such an example of a herbivore become Omnivores? For example can a horse become Omnivore? If it is possible what would be the process and critical facture where such evolution step take place?

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Le omnivore has arrived reddit.com/gallery/jigd7i
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At least the omnivores are being honest about their egoism.
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We are omnivores because of our teeth not because we chose to
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Hydra Omnivore + Dictate of the Twin Gods = Quick Game

So this happened tonight during my playgroup’s usual β€œMagic Monday” game night. We’d just finished a grueling 2 hour 5 player game and one of our 5 players had been knocked out 45 minutes in because he was going off. In game 2, he was playing his MONSTROUS [[Xenegos, God of Revels]] deck as to take his vengeance.

Just to give you and idea of how quickly the game got out of hand, he played [[Reshape the Earth]] on turn 4. By turn 5 I had just enough mana for one last final play to add my impact on the game, so I waited. When my buddy dropped [[Hydra Omnivore]] and a slew of other bloating abilities, the hydra was an unblockable 36/36. I told him to hit me.

Cautiously he asked if any damage would come his way and I responded β€œI don’t think so.” He took the chance. He swung at me and I flashed out [[Dictate of the Twin Gods]] and the game ended thusly. Considering I was playing a [[Thantis]] deck and the whole scheme is β€œWar,” I’d say even though I lost, I won in the end.

God I love this game.

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β€œTo say that humans have the anatomical structure of an omnivore is an egregiously inaccurate statement.”

– The great taxonomist Carolus Linnaeus, (1707-1778), a Swedish naturalist and botanist who established the modern scientific method of classifying plants and animals, classified humans not as carnivores, not as omnivores, nor even as herbivores, but as frugivores.

Linnaeus writes: β€œMan’s structure, internal and external compared with that of the other animals, shows that fruit and succulent vegetables are his natural food.”

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"You might think you're safe, but remember, horses are omnivores."
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What happened to all the omnivores?

In the show there is no mention of omnivores and only carnivores and herbivores are shown so what happened to them?

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Omnivore, but donations to animal focused NGOs

What would you say to someone being an omnivore, but donating money to charities and other NGOs that advocate for animal rights, better conditions etc?

Arguably, you could probably get more 'bang for your buck' by donating, but it would of course be inconsistent.

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Are the omnivores okay?
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Need advice with my omnivore family members, please

Hello fellow vegans!

Firstly, I'm still somewhat of a vegan newbie, if that makes sense. Throughout the years, I have been pescatarian, vegetarian, and plant-based, but now, I consider myself a vegan, especially after educating myself more about what being a vegan truly means.

However, being a vegan has been a bit problematic with my family and I would love advice from this lovely community. I moved back with my parents during the pandemic to help them out with their seafood restaurant. There, they sell all kinds of seafood, particularly fish, shellfish, and crabs. I help them out with frying and steaming seafood. I know that as a vegan, this is frowned down upon, but my parents depend on me as the cook. It is also my parents' livelihood and sole source of income. I always pack my own vegan lunch, of course, but here I am, cooking so much seafood. I also sometimes have to help with prepping fish, such as beheading, gutting, scaling, and filleting fish. Do I like doing this? Absolutely not. However, my parents depend on me to do this. Can I even still call myself a vegan if I am prepping and cooking seafood? I've been feeling guilt as a vegan, but also guilt for not wanting to help my parents who work 70+ hours a week at the restaurant.

On top of that, during family dinners, I have to prepare my own dinner with my family. My siblings will eat my mom's cooking while I eat my separate prepared meal. I do feel like my mom feels like crap because I can't eat her food. She will, however, prepare fruit and vegetables. Most of her dishes contain seafood (because of the seafood restaurant).

Now, with my nephews. I love hanging out with my nephews, but their favorite food is anything chicken related; nuggets, breasts, sandwiches, etc. I have tried to cook them plant-based food, but they won't touch it (they are under 9). They always want McDonald's, Chickfila, etc, and most of the time, I get them what they want. I know this is the easy way out, but they are at the age where they dislike vegetables and spit out my vegan dishes.... When I uncle-sit, I will just throw some chicken nuggets in the oven because that is what they want to eat....

My family members are all lovely, but they are omnivores and do not really take me into consideration. For instance, for the Super Bowl, my brother just ordered pizza, chicken wings, and other junk I obviously cannot and will not eat.

I've been a bit ignorant of what a "vegan" truly means, but I would love guidance or a

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[WP] Omnivores

Most species on the galactic stage are either canivorious or herbivores, and some are Omnivores.

But then humans arrive, and eat everything. True Omnivores, it is even said one ate an entire strike craft to prove a point, and had only mild indigestion.

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Been trying to be an omnivore but not getting the genetic mutation and nothing is working

Im bipedal, have max, dodge, attack, alteration, ect. In my conquest for omnivore i have went from a millennium man to ardi, even have the omnivore parts eggs and mushrooms. But god frick me i cannot get the genetic mutation FOR MEAT, i have almost every genetic mutation and yet, for but a curse it seems. Ik it prolly doesnt, just to make sure i have been taking all my babies out(like normal) killing any animal and eating them trying to see if that causes a mutation, does it? Should i keep going until my elders have mutations then evolve up or should i start generation ing up wsiting for the omnivore to appear. Iv tried everything and am lost

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What do you think that the conversion rate from omnivore to vegan is of people who watch Earthlings / Dominion? /r/VeganActivism/comments…
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Full Vegan spread. The two pale humans are omnivores but we are willing them around, they took the formula for seitan.
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Comparison testing of vegan meat substitutes must be done by omnivores.
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Personal shepherd's pie, sure to please even picky omnivores (mushroom, carrot, and pea base with taters crisped under the broilet)
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How can a utilitarian arguing for veganism reply to an omnivore essentially framing themselves as a utility monster? /r/askphilosophy/comments…
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Dismemberment Extermination - Omnivore (Those Bassdrops!) youtu.be/iHItjeZpibo
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Maned Wolf, the only species of the "Golden Dog" genus, is solitary unlike most large canid species. They are omnivores with a hunting success rate of 21%. Their favorite food is the Wolf Apple which may make up between 40-90% of their diet, it's basically named after them. gfycat.com/appropriateski…
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Omnivores, what is it you understand that vegans don't?
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