I’m 27. I have never had an allergy, never needed allergy pills.
On the 18th of March I got my first COVID vaccine shot, right. Oxford. Got a sore arm, had really violent chills for like 6 hours, then everything was fine. Apparently.
Two days later I was taking photos of my face for an online skin consultation, I was freaking out because my skin was freaking out. I asked my derm for skinoren and differin.
Thing is, the week before I’d done a salicylic acid peel, and because I’m a dumbass, I figured my rapidly worsening acne was a result of frying my skin barrier.
So I start the new topicals. I see some improvement. That week, I randomly started getting hives all over my body, they kept popping up in different places and then disappearing. WTF. I had to google and figure out what hives were!
I ruled out the new creams cuz my face was the only place not getting hives. I learned that covid vaccines are causing hives in some people. Cool. Mystery solved. I ignored them at first hoping they would go away, but they didn’t, and after another week I also developed weird red patchiness on my neck that was itchy as all hell and I said fuckit and bought a bunch of antihistamines, and started taking one per day.
The hives went away! And the weird neck thing! Yay! Coincidentally, my skin was REALLY clearing up beautifully. I figured, well it’s the creams doing their thing. Sweet!
Kept taking the tablets. Still no hives. Face looking bomb AF. Went on with my life.
After like a week I forgot to take the antihistamines for a few days cuz I take a bunch of other shit too and I just plum forgot, because I’m not used to needing allergy tablets.
I remembered they existed when I was idly scratching my itchy neck one night, feeling a bit sad because I’d randomly gotten a few little spots on my face and I was worried the initial skin glow-up was wearing off or something. And I was like, oh fuck I haven’t taken allergy pills for a few days, no wonder I’m itchy!
Then I saw someone on another sub say that covid vaccines are causing some people to break out, and I had this tunnel vision like the food critic in ratatouille, and I went and checked when I got my vaccine. Yep. Two days before the worst acne I’ve ever had in my life.
Then I googled “acne antihistamines” and uh, this is a thing.
“Antihistamine inhibits inflammatory mediators, Propionibacterium acne induced itching, reduction of squalene and seb... keep reading on reddit ➡
Hi guys, so I was told I had HI a few years ago but my dermatologist (who I went to because my primary symptom was itching all over my body) recently told me that my tryptase levels and blood tests were normal but that they diagnosed HI based on clinical signs which mainly consisted of itching. So I have finally decided to try a strict low histamine diet to see if my symptoms go so that I can hopefully figure out if I have HI or at least if my food is the culprit. The reason I haven’t followed a strict diet before is because I’m young, very busy and I could mostly live with my symptoms. I’ve been eating strictly low histamine foods for five days now and my symptoms are no better. It’s not sustainable for me because, amongst other reasons, I’m not home until late in the evening and low HI lunches are difficult. Basically what I’m wondering is how long I should follow the strictest low histamine diet to see if my itching stops, surely if food is causing my issues it shouldn’t take too long for symptoms to go if I’m only eating the lowest histamine foods. I know it’s only been five days but if anyone has any idea or experience that would be great!
I'm not sure if anyone else here will be in my situation - it's a little specific...
I caught covid, which then turned into having long covid for the last 10 months.
A low-histamine diet is one of the things a lot of people try to overcome long covid, but it's pretty restrictive, even without adding in IBS and intolerance to many FODMAPs.
I put together a list of foods that are both low-FODMAP and low-histamine on my blog for anyone who might be in the same boat.
Has anyone else had to deal with long covid here? Apparently, people who have IBS are more likely to develop it I heard...
I had ADD and have GI issues due to antibiotics that have caused histamine intolerance. A variety of foods and drugs have been causing problematic symptoms. It seems like my vyvanse medication, nicotine, caffeine and nootropics including sulbutiamine, Memantine and others are making things worse. Non drowsy antihistamines aren’t much help. I’ve been experimenting with quercetin and vit c but not much professional there either.
Rhodiola works but it’s not strong enough. What other options are available? Does bromantane increase histamine? Semax?
What are the circumstances when the majority are produced?
Particularly for ground beef, once the meat is ground at what rate and under what circumstances do they accumulate? Or is it the case that most is already there from the storage? How does cooking impact it?
I get headaches most days, probably tension headaches, and neck pain, but the last week I haven't had either. Six days in a row without a head is my longest streak for years!
Coincidentally I was taking an anti histamine that week for hay fever or some similar type of allergy.
Today I didn't take an anti histamine and I have a headache.
Could the antihistamine helped with the headache? Or maybe the allergy the antihistamine was fighting was causing the headache?
Probably a coincidence but I thought I'd see if anyone is familiar with this?
Not only anxiety from the heart pounding and difficulty breathing, and brain fog. But does anyone ever experience more severe neurological changes like dissociation and what feels like what I can only describe it as borderline psychosis?
Hi guys. I'm half Asian and was unfortunately cursed with the Asian flush since I was born. My job requires a lot of social drinking and socializing, so I have no choice but to take some pills and/or remedy to tackle it.
Having a few Google searches and Amazon searches, I still can't find them anywhere. Is there's any services in the UK I can approach towards for delivery? I'm based in Wakefield, West Yorkshire. Thank you all in advance.
Edit: Apologies for the lack of context. I'm a bar manager, and we always have to do training on spirits, wines and cocktails with the team and not to mention supplier trainings.
I always also have to try and taste to not only improve my knowledge, but also to craft the best taste for customers especially with my responsibility to write a menu in the very soon future. It's a mandatory part of the job, I'm afraid. I've had no choice but to go in hospitality fresh out of highschool due to my family being unable to afford college/uni. It's a bit too late right now to change career paths I'm afraid, especially with the whole pandemic affecting businesses.
I am a little confused about this. I have a condition called Rosacea and it's said we should avoid histamines. I read that bacteria can cause the release of histamines. How do I build up my gut without all the histamines? Thank you
I'm not a health professional and this is just me trying to put some puzzle pieces together but I thought I'd put my theory out there to see what others think.
The recent posts on probiotics had me researching probiotics I wanted to try out for myself. This lead me to understand through my reading that there are certain probiotics that are great for regulating histamine and those that can make symptoms worse. I'm wondering how many of you noticed histamine intolerance get worse after an illness and/or after taking antibiotics? For me, personally, things got way worse after becoming sick with the flu and only got worse from there. I'm also missing my appendix from an infection I had when I was a kid and I know that the appendix is supposed to play a part in keeping a balance of bacteria in our colon. Without that, maybe I'm more susceptible to bacterial overgrowth and, therefore, histamine intolerance?
My theory is that maybe a big part of the problem with histamine intolerance comes mainly with a bacterial imbalance. The Bifidus strains of probiotics seems to have an important role in inhibiting histamine and they colonize the large intestine. Many times, these beneficial bacteria can be overrun by bad bacteria and will show up in lower numbers in our colon especially after an illness and antibiotic regimen. I was looking into probiotic enemas as a way to recolonize the large intestine with the beneficial histamine suppressing probiotics. It seems like a more direct/quicker way to rebalance the bacteria and maybe give better results to our efforts to live with histamine intolerance.
Has anyone tried probiotic enemas? From what I read, it generally takes 7-10 days to establish a new colony in the large intestine so the enemas would need to be done for that long.
Just a note to whoever reads this and would want to try it I'd recommend researching it first. There are some things to watch out for as far as whether or not trying something like this would be okay for you and whether or not you would experience negative side effects. But that being said, it's something that actual kits are being sold for and many benefits are to be had from probiotic enemas for other health reasons.
EDIT: I wanted to add, one of the negative side effects may be a die off reaction from doing this quickly with a enemas. Since I'm planning on trying this, my plan is to take diatomaceous earth for a few weeks as a way to slowly reduce a bad bacterial overgrowth... keep reading on reddit ➡
Does anyone also experience complete loss of appetite as a histamine reaction? Mine usually starts becoming severe in the next morning and consists of migraine and extreme appetite loss for the next 2 days. Would be glad to hear how histamine influences your appetite/satiety signals!
My cousin and I both have a histamine intolerance, and I think (for obvious reasons) that there may be a genetic cause. My cousin thinks she has gotten it as a result from having a covid-19 infection, which has been linked to causing it. I would feel more at ease knowing whether my recently diagnosed histamine intolerance can be treated (if caused by SIBO, any digestive issue, etc.) or whether I will have this for life (basically caused by a gene abnormality.
Does anyone know where I can test this?
I was recently diagnosed with MCAS and Histamine Intolerance and I was wondering if anybody here knows if Tia can cause histamine release? I would like to be able to take some again as I was forced to quit Kratom due to this diagnosis but I am terrified if I dose it's going to set off an attack. TIA!
I get the sense dates are at least partially responsible for my reaction here.
Hello there. I know one of the symptoms of histamine intolerance is reflux. I was reading about reflux. Reflux is the leakage of food into the esophagus. I know that increased histamine levels increase stomach acid levels. The point I don't understand is high stomach acid = reflux? How exactly does histamine intolerance cause reflux?
I’ve been on this histamine free diet for a few months now, I accidentally ate something that triggered an episode that was almost more intense than it was before.
I’m worried that all this avoidance of histamine is actually making me more sensitive, does anyone else have this experience?
Hi - question from a total newbie just looking into histamine intolerance as a possible cause for a number of troubling symptoms I've developed over the past few years.
I am just wondering if following a low histamine diet is intended to be a long term lifestyle change, or whether it's purpose is to identify trigger foods so they alone can be eliminated? Apologies if this is a stupid question. My heart dropped at the thought I'd never be able to eat all those different foods again, but it's easier to manage the idea of potentially just losing a few.
As an aside I'm also wondering how folks have gone about identifying environmental triggers? I have a suspicion that something in my environment could be causing my symptoms, just because a very allergic friend moved out in the past year and has had a huge change in her symptoms. However I've moved house 3 times in as many years and sustained the same symptoms throughout.
I wonder whether I have a histamine intolerance so I want to keep a food diary but I am not sure of the delay time between eating offending food and symptoms. Any advice welcome. I suddenly developed urticaria dermatographia 4 years ago, I have always suffered badly with wind and gastrointestinal sensitivity such as diarrhoea after eating fresh orange plus dry nasal passages and have flare ups of dermatitis behind my ears. I hadn't heard of HIT until today so I'm looking into it. Thanks
I have reluctantly had to accept that the low histamine diet really helps with my migraines and diarrhoea but I'm feeling like I've lost most of my savoury snacks and I'm having way too much sugar in cereal, rice pudding, apple everything etc
I never had a sweet tooth so I would eat a lot of salami, cheese and smoked fish as easy things to grab and eat on the go. Can anyone suggest low histamine snacks that aren't tortilla chips and hummus. I like hummus dont get me wrong but there has to be more to life than this!
I've recently received a histamine intolerance diagnosis, which I had actually received last summer (2020) too, but I thought it was a temporary thing from eating to many foods high in histamine. However, I realised I struggle with the related symptoms on and off for many years, so I assume this is a more 'fixed' issue.
I saw different websites and studies which listed several causes/factors for HI which were mostly related to stress, gut issues, estrogen, and covid. Not that many treatments were suggested for this other than a diet, which is frustrating since its quite difficult to live off of veggies and chicken forever...
Does anyone have any experience with treating HI other than through the elimination diet? Anyone tried the DAO enzymes? Im really interested to hear anyone's experience. I'd also be curious if there are any specialists that should have more knowledge about this than other doctors, like an allergists?
Thank you in advance to anyone who shares their experiences or any tips. :)
what tcm pattern does it relate to. Is acupuncture helpful...any herbs recommended?
Hi, has anyone of you experienced onset of histamine intolerance with discontinuation of an antidepressant medication (SSRI, John's wort) or other types of medication (such as in postfinasteride syndrome)?
I am doing my research on why I am feeling like shit and looking for what could help me. 1 thing for sure is eating good quality meat improves my symptoms. Some complex carbs, especially lactose fucks me up. Fun fact - sometimes I can drink a glass of milk with no problems, I can have cup of coffee with no problems. But if I mix them 2 ... Diarrhea and stomach cramps are terible.
My experience with carnivore and how it effects my siptoms:
Fasting or eating meat for a week resets my gut, but when I start eating normally everything comes back... GI-map test suspects SIBO, still debating if it is worth to do breath test since I can only find hydrogen breath test around me ( I live in Europe).
Anyway, my question - since I have a massive improvement from fasting or eating only meat ( my flatulence is gon in like 72 hours). Maybe Elemental Diet or Long time carnivore diet ( like 6 weeks) should cure me. However, I always read different experience here:
I am looking for any kind of advice here. Thanks.
P.s. I am kinda done with doctors - after I was diagnosed with CPPS, they washed their hands and send the physiotherapy. I had much better luck by learning stretching/excercice routine by myself. Same thing with digestive issues - they just want to prescribe anti-acids and have newer heard about SIBO. Or the so-called "functional doctors" are some HR ladies that took health classes...
I was on here a few weeks ago showing you guys the eczema flare up I had that looked like scabies all over my arms and legs (nothing like the type of flare ups I had as a child, not even the same type of eczema).
Doctor prescribed anti-histamines and corticosteroids. I decided not to use the corticosteroids and just take the anti-histamines ( she told me to take them for a month once or twice a day). And guess what? The itching almost completely vanished. The skin is starting to heal. Not only that, but even my face (and eyelids) which has become abnormally flaky and itchy and dry for the past 7 months has recovered almost fully. I stopped using moisturizer too. I just wanted to isolate the root cause of this flare up to make sure if it was allergies.
Now I'm mostly left with ugly scars that look like bug bites and occasional small itch.
I'm just worried that the itching will start all over again once I'm done taking anti-histamines. I would take them every day of my life if it meant that the itching and eczema would go away forever.
I'm curious if anyone experiences gastroparesis as a symptom of HI? I've been experiencing extremely slow stomach emptying for a while now. I also noticed when I'd use things that increase histamine like nicotine it would make my stomach clench up. One of the other main symptoms I get is muscle tension in my calves and back. I know histamine is involved in contractions of the GI that move food down, but I wonder if too much histamine activity could have the opposite effect?
Hey folks, just wondering what your thoughts are. I have MCAS which has been re-triggered by mold. But I really don’t think I have histamine Intolerance. Is this even possible? I’m really ill but it all seems to be from damage the mycotoxins have/ are doing to my gut. Addressing Histamine in my diet & with meds had no impact on me whatsoever.. in fact if anything going low histamine made things worse! Most confused.
Many people, while avoiding histamine-rich food, still have symptoms because their microbiome produces histamine. I am in that category.
The important thing to know here is that the way you eat influences your microbiome. But how should one eat to promote histamine-degrading bacteria strains while avoiding histamine-producing strains? This is the one million dollar question.
So I just found out about this website: https://microbiomeprescription.com/
There, you can 1) search for strains according to their histamine-producing capabilities, and most importantly 2) get the details about which dietary choices promote or reduces this particular strain. All the scientific references are listed in each and every case (i.e. this isn’t just another holistic BS blog, but a scientifically validated database).
From that, one can extrapolate which dietary choices it’s best to go with to promote a histamine-degrading microbiome. The only work left to do is to compile a list of food that should be chosen for their capability to promote histamine-degrading strains, and which food should be avoided for their capability to promote histamine-producing strains.
I think I just found out what I’ll do in my free time this summer.
Does anyone know if histamine, like fodmaps comes out into the water that a food has been boiled in? I’m thinking specifically if I were to make a soup with mushrooms in it to add flavor and then remove the mushrooms, not eat them, but eat the soup that they were cooked in. Or for example, to make a medicinal mushroom tea, which technically would be helpful for immune function, but I don’t want to inadvertently raise my histamine at the same time!
I’m a mushroom farmer and avid mushroom forager and it’s killing me to not be able to use mushrooms in any form!
I pretty much eat oats & rice exclusively to control my digestive symptoms.
When I eat other plants, I get painful bloating & reflux, after a couple days.
Not sure why oats and rice dont cause the same discomfort - I see they are low histamine - so wondering if histamine could be a factor.... however, I see potato & banana are also low histamine - but they do provoke these symptoms.
Could it still be histamine? Or does mean its likely not histamine?
Long story short, I have multiple health issues and injuries (GERD, CPPS, pain in most joints and muscles). This gives me chronic depression. However, most of my joint pain comes from tight muscle/imbalances. for ex. my TMJ pain comes from tight masseter muscle that I constantly stretch, same with wrist pain and so on...
I tried ZC/ Carnvirosh keto before and was feeling like shit, so I stopped. Then I tried again. Then stopped... Then I found out about Histamines, realized that I was eating shitty food, tried it again and again, feeling like shit.... This time, I am also suspecting that I have SIBO ( GERD and bloating after eating certain foods), and it clicked to me that I was eating too much fiber with my stakes, which of course feed the SIBO. So I am trying low histamine zc diet again. And what I can tell you - I ate whole egg omelet with cheese - massive migraine attack; ate veal meat for 2 days - massive improvements, mood lifted, my bloat is gone, GERD is improving, pains subsided; ate egg yolks - still feeling fine; ate a bag of cheese - feeling sleepy and light-headed again... I think this confirms that I have histamine issues due to SIBO.
Well, I actually did the GI-map test and some marks MIGTH suggest SIBO my functional practitioner said. Makes sense, since I abused antibiotics and anti-acids while growing up. So, I plan to do ZC for 6 weeks to help reset my gut and get rid of SIBO (I found comments that it should be enough time).
My question is should that be enough? Even if I cure the SIBO, won't I relapse? I read the theory that SIBO is not a disease, but a symptom that there is an issue with Migrating motor complex due to some autoimmune issue. Carnivore helps to put the issue to remission and when you start eating normally, everything comes back. Oh and for those who a curious - I am taking DAO, multivitamins, HCL supplements for digestion. And some other supplements like magnesium. I plan to macro dose on vitamin C as well.
Hello everyone I have celiac disease and my stomach was really unwell now things got better since cutting gluten but The problem is I took some amino acids for months and I now have what I believe is histamine intolerance I regret ever taking them but it's too late. Do you think things can get back to normal for me or will it be a permanent thing?I already had to cut gluten and I just wanna die when I think I made this histamine intolerance happen. I have panic attacks just thinking about it. My symptoms is eczema and itching everywhere. I already had eczema in the past but it cleared up. My life is only getting worse whenever I start thinking things are getting better :( If anyone could shed some light or just give me words of comfort but do tell the truth please.
Not sure if this is the right place to ask but I have been struggling to find an answer online. I have had allergy skin prick test results back and it mentions that I had a 4mm diameter wheal for histamine. Does this mean I have an intolerence/reaction to histamine?
If I drink alcohol I get cold symptoms for a few days after and I know that there is histamine in most alcohols just wondering if this would be the reason for it.
I am super scared of taking anything that might retrigger my sibo, my doctor recommended steroids but I don't want to suppress my immune system and unbalance my gut. What do you guys recommend? I am following a low histamine diet but this itching is so debilitating. I thought once I cured my sibo my itching would stop.
I am taking 20g of l glutamine a day and zinc carnosine to reheal the gut lining too plus ginger before meals for motility.
I also had gut dysbiosis caused by klebsiella and citrobactr. And probotics helped me before I knew I had sibo but I was advised to come off them.
I want to take advantage of freeze drying and dehydrating for backpacking and thru hiking, but I have a lot of dietary requirements including histamine intolerance. Certain cooking and ageing methods increase histamine levels. From my Google research I’m fairly certain dehydrating and freeze drying doesn’t impact histamine. Can anyone confirm or shed any light on this? Ty!
Along with some of the other awesome symptoms you have to deal with when suffering from histamine intolerance a big one for me is tension. When I sleep my body tenses up like crazy and when I wake up it feels like I've been fighting for my life, my body is exhausted and especially my facial muscles are so tense. This leads to a lot of fatigue and chronic tension headaches. Is this something others suffer from and have found remedies for the situation? I suspect it is so prevalent during night as histamine release increases over night. The only relief I have found was from taking a probiotic (Garden of Life 50 billion) which seems to have an effect (I'm waiting on non-histamine producing strains to arrive).
Additionally I was wondering if any of you know of the mechanism that would cause muscles to tense as a result of histamine production? Any studies are much appreciated
(I'm following a low histamine diet which helps but is far from solving the problems)
20yo female. 120lbs, 5’4”
Been a runner all my life until the past few years where I went from collegiate to casual running. Around this time, I developed severe dermatographia. Ridiculously itchy and swells quicks. Flare ups are triggered by stress, dehydration, lack of sleep, or eating. Even my gums will sometimes swell when I brush my teeth, if I’m flaring up. My dermatographia has affected every part of my life and I would do anything to reduce the embarrassing hives and constant itchyness. I am allergic to shellfish, vaguely to oranges, and my skin has always been very sensitive. I’ve had stomach issues all my life I’ve attributed to anxiety. Easily bloated. Recently, I’ve been chronically nauseous, and puking way more than I should. I’ll have a few sips (literally a few sips) of a beer and be puking hungover the next morning. I’m not even 21 yet and I can’t drink a sip of a beer without being down for a few days. This month, I’ve been puking so much I took a pregnancy test because I was convinced I had to have had morning sickness. But nope, just puking a lot. I have had brain fog forever. I took antidepressants and Adderall for a bit but stopped a few months ago because it made all my symptoms worse.
I can answer literally any question that may help. I cannot handle being nauseous all of the time anymore. Any doctor since seen haven’t thought my symptoms are related and have been unhelpful :(
So in the past I've been treated with Xolair for my histamine issues (nasty expensive injections) I've had several consultations with the chief physician and told him of my reactions to high histamine foods and how those are linked. He simply brushes it off and says "there's no scientific evidence that histamine can even pass through the intestinal lining and thus cause and issue, it is simply too large a molecule... eat what you like food has nothing to do with it...'. I wanna give him the finger and bring some studies next time I have an appointment so I was hoping some of you might be familiar with studies that shed some light on this, or at least link high histamine foods to histamine intolerance.
Thanks I'll let you know how it goes.
Has anyone here actually managed to cure their histamine intolerance or know of someone who has? I see a lot of emphasis on treating symptoms (Which I understand as these are horrible) but has anyone been able to identify the root cause of their symptoms and effectively treat it and are now able to ingest high histamine foods without issue?
First off: Love this community! You folks are a godsend.
I suffered from severe histamine intolerance many years ago due to abrupt discontinuation of benzodiazepines. I couldn’t tolerate coffee, alcohol, leftovers, fermented foods, dairy, citrus, the list was endless! Lived on chicken, veggies and rice. Took me many years to heal it…
Unfortunately, it’s back again… This time due to the discontinuation of another horrible drug called mirtazapine, a.k.a. Remeron. I tapered off of it extremely slowly, yet it didn’t help and I got screwed in the end. It’s been six months since I’ve discontinued and I’m still in hell. Worse, not better.
The main symptom is an inability to sleep past 3 AM, an inability to get more than 4-5 hours sleep. I can fall asleep in half a second because I’m so exhausted from not getting any sleep every day… But then I wake up 4 to 5 hours later without fail. And it doesn’t matter how much meditation, breathing, music, weed, music, whatever that I do… There’s simply NO getting back to sleep.
Others in my shoes (recovering from this drug) report it taking up to a year (!!) to get normal sleep again… And I just can’t take that! I’m definitely sensitive to histamines again, but I don’t usually get the raciness, anxiety, brain fog, fatigue, etc. after eating them that I used to… Unless I overdo it. Now it’s mainly maddening insomnia.
I just did a deep dive searching this community & r/histamineintolerance all things related to sleep and insomnia… Here’s my takeaways, wondering if anyone has any experience with these, and maybe any other suggestions that could help.
Ginger tea Vitamin C Probiotics Quercetin Bromelian Nettle 5-HTP DAO Kidney supplement
Thank you!! 🙏😇
29 male 6’, 175lbs no other issues New York
I’m having the worst seasonal allergies of my life - sneezing, congested, eyes red inflamed, feel terrible. OTC Anti-histamines are barely helping.
Most years I get mild to nothing but this is bad enough that I’ll be starting allergy injections to avoid it in future.
In the interim, if I go to the doctor now can they do anything for the current symptoms that I’m not already doing?
I have recently started to use pepcid for my ibs (mcas) stomach issues and found that it also helps my exercise induced migraines. I could feel it slightly when i did sauna afterward so maybe i need a little bit bigger dose but overall it was a really uplifting experience.
Now i just just wonder if others have dabbled much with finding a good combination of antihistamines (or other tricks) to lower the exercise response without negatively affecting the workout.