Greek Language

Has this ever been researched? I would be interested in average levels of classical language proficiency at the end of a BA program. Do people actually learn how to read Greek after 4 years of study? Or must they continue on to a MA?

Here's the relevant section of a language difficulty analysis based on majority opinion. Levels of difficulty range from easiest or 1 to most difficult of all or 6:

>Classic or Ancient Greek is worse [than Modern Greek], with a distinction between aspirated and unaspirated consonants, a pitch accent system and a truly convoluted, insanely irregular system of noun and verb inflection. It has a dual number in addition singular and plural and it has a very difficult optative case. Irregular verbs have one of six different stem types. The grammar is one of the most complex of all languages and the phonology and morphology are truly convoluted. Ancient Greek is said to have had four different genitive cases, but it actually had four different uses of the genitive:
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> 1. Objective Genitive - "for obedience to faith"
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>2. Subjective Genitive - "faith's obedience" or faithful obedience
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>3. Attributive Genitive - "obedience of faith"
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>4. Ge

I always thought that was merely a nationalistic myth. But today, I was looking at some old maps of Balkans and found many maps like this one. It shows that half of Greece was populated by Albanians less than two centuries ago.

So, now I’m wondering whether that myth about the language vote is true?

Is this also the reason they can’t differentiate between Albanian and Greek DNA?

Thanks for any enlightment!

Edit: Changed the link of the map, as it wasn’t opening.

Just as the title says. I am working through a couple of Latin textbooks and have been enjoying it immensely. I was wondering if there was anything for Ancient Greek that was as high of quality as Wheelock's textbooks are Latin. If so, could you recommend some?

Thank you in advance.

Background on the Lödheisi language's dealing with borrowings (before we start, to clear up potential confusion; yes, the definite article in the singular is by coincidence the):

When one writes in Lödheisi the main foreign languages of Classical Education (Latin, Attic Greek, Biblical Hebrew, Safavid Persian, and Classical Arabic) retain their forms as much as possible in Lödheisi. For example, if one wanted to say "Islam," this would require the Lödheisi definite article "the," but because Arabic is one of the 5 classic languages, it is written al islaamu (NOM) al islaama (ACC) or al islaami (GEN) rather than the islaam (Though, this form is still acceptable--just a little less erudite). In the same vein, "of Jesus Christ" (often using Latin as the background language, but the Greek and Hebrew forms can be used) would be "Yesus Khristir" with the native Lödheisi genitive, but is com

I've just finished Meditations by Marcus Aurelius and noticed there are printed versions of the book in Ancient Greek available. I'm just wondering if anyone has read any texts from a similar era in an ancient language and how it compared to the modern translations.

For example, were the meaning you took away from certain quotes discernibly different from the modern versions? Did you find the read a lot more rewarding? Can the differences in ideas and the writing you noticed even be conveyed in a modern English version? Also, do you think it is worth learning an ancient language in order to read literature in this way?

I would be very interested to hear from anyone that could answer this question.

The symbols will show up correctly on virtually any device because it's unicode.

Some corresponding letters on a keyboard are:

u = θ

s = σ

g = γ

h = η

c = ψ

v = ω

m = μ

n = ν

r = ρ

a = α

b = β

d = δ

p = π

As a native greek speaker learning german, I have found the concept of seperable verbs extremely weird. It cannot cross my mind why anyone would choose to speak like this.*

So I would like to know if any of the learners of our sub, had similar thoughts about a greek language grammar or syntax concept.

*For those that don't know german, some verbs that begin with a preposition get splitted, and place the preposition in the end of the sentence. If we had this example in greek the sentence "Εγώ προετοιμάζω το φαγητό." would be "Εγώ ετοιμάζω το φαγητό προ."

Say the first 5 that come to your mind

Josephus:

>I have also taken a great deal of pains to obtain the learning of the Greeks; and understand the elements of the Greek language: although I have so long accustomed my self to speak our own tongue, that I cannot pronounce Greek with sufficient exactness. for our nation does not encourage those that learn the languages of many nations, and so adorn their discourses with the smoothness of their periods; because they look upon this sort of accomplishment as common, not only to all sorts of free-men, but to as many of the servants as please to learn them. But they give him the testimony of being a wise man who is fully acquainted with our laws, and is able to interpret their meaning; (The Antiquities of the Jews, 20.263-264)

Hi everyone,

I created a Youtube Channel to help all those who are interested to learn Greek! I post every Wednesday a new video talking about grammar and vocabulary topics. On a daily basis i update my instagram account with new short videos of Greek phrases and words, so all the students can be consistent in learning.

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So Greek was the Lingua Franca of the Roman Empire, and the first Christians, if not the disciples themselves, spoke Greek. The Gospels were written in this spoken, living language.

Christianity spread all over the Roman Empire, and over distance and time, it eventually was adopted people who weren't conversant in Greek. Nowadays the Greek of the Gospels is an ancient Greek. When did people who read and copied the Gospels stop being conversant in the language they were originally written in?

Another fairly common argument brought up by skeptics is that the gospels couldn’t have been authored by their respective apostles because of the fact they are written in Koine Greek, in particular, they were written very well in Koine Greek. The problem is that, allegedly, peasants from first century Judaea would either not have understood Koine Greek at all, or at least been unable to weave such literary miracles as the Gospels, with the complex use of literary devices and elegant structure. Is this a good argument against traditional authorship?

Some of my initial thoughts are that Koine Greek was actually fairly common throughout that time Period, and lost people were trilingual or even quadrilingual. They were speaking Aramaic, Hebrew, Koine Greek and perhaps Latin. So the issue is not so much would they have spoken koine Greek, but would they have spoken it that well? I guess divine inspiration is an argument, but not that is particularly useful in an argument with a skeptic,

As a learner, what feature of Greek phonology/grammar/syntax/alphabet, the language in general, do you find most interesting/unique/exotic?

Natives speakers of Greek, like myself, and of other languages, of course, tend to miss the uniqueness of their native tongue, due to familiarity and every day use. Do I'd like to hear the perspective of learners of Greek, who are not so well accustomed to the Language as natives are.

Native Greek speakers, I would like your perspective as well!

Feel free to mention as many as you want, not just one.

Hello,are there any greeks here? I would like to know if they can understand this language,it's spoken in some villages of southern Italy (mainly in Salento and Calabria) and sadly it's dying out

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I am a native Greek and English speaker, and am currently a Greek language teacher for a class of 6yr olds, and I also do adult private tutoring. As a foreign language learner myself (Arabic and French), I came across many difficulties from grammar concepts that do not exist in my own mother tongues to an inability to properly pronounce certain letters no matter how hard I tried.

Now that I am teaching my own language, it is helping me learn a lot about Greek from the perspective of the learner. I have been asked questions ranging from understanding the cases, to which words take an -e (-ε) ending for the vocative, to syntactic structure and the flexibility of wording a sentence.

I’m curious—what have been your biggest challenges in learning Greek?

If this is not allowed, I'll remove this post.

The full sentence I want written in Greek is "I love you in Greek"

Turkic empires have been known to adopt the languages of their subjects such as the Bulgars adopting Slavic or the Ilkhanids (Turco-Mongol) adopting Persian.

So what if the Seljuks and later the Ottomans (& the Turkish Beyliks in Anatolia) had made Greek the official language of their domains and adopted it?

Would it have made it easier to convert Greeks to Islam or how would this have changed the history of the Seljuks & later Ottoman Empire?

Hello fellow mathematicians! In my undergrad I majored in math and minored in Ancient Greek, however I have yet to be able to locate any resources where I could read writings from early Greek mathematicians in the original language. Do these exist? If so, where might I go about looking for them?

I appreciate any help I can get here!

I have heard stories that the similarities between Latin, Greek, and Sanskrit were noted at time and viewed as evidence that all languages are related, but that seems apocryphal(were Latin and Greek speakers that aware of Sanskrit)?

I am hoping that some of you have some personal knowledge of good classes that have good prices in Greece.

Please don't spend ten minutes doing a shallow Google search then copy and paste for me a lot of links to bad websites with unsatisfactory information on them. I can use Google search too, ok.

When I look, mostly I find crazy prices or else outdated or inadequate information. Many of these places are clearly just taking advantage of stupid tourists. For example, many will advertise apartment rates for basically youth hostel accommodations that cost more than staying in luxury in Santorini.

I have been to Greece many times so I know if I am being ripped off. It is unbelievable how many "language schools" there are advertising in Greece all with horrible websites, old information advertising classes from 2017, no prices given, etc--and no it isn't because of Coronavirus because I spent a lot of time looking last year and found the same thing.

So I thought maybe somebody here wil

Καλησπέρα, everyone!

I've been learning Greek for 3 days until now, but only using the playlist that Language Transfer made. It has been very useful to understand the way that Greek works generally, learn a few verbs, construct simple phrases alone and etc. But somehow I still think that there is something missing, like I need something else to improve my own learning process. I miss writing down the words, seeing how it connects alongside the listening.

Please, feel free to express yourself not just about my case, but the learning process as a whole.

Ευχαριστώ!

My girlfriend is Greek and I was going to get her and her family flowers for Greek Easter. Are there any flowers/colors that are particularly Greek or represent Greek Easter? Or is there another gift you may suggest?

Sorry mods, I’m not sure where else to ask and was hoping to check this community. Please let me know if there is a more appropriate forum.

For comparison, Persian survived and became a prestige language in India & Central Asia when those areas were conquered by Muslims.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyeus

I’m doing a paper for school discussing the linguistic changes in the Greek Language from Ancient Greek to Modern Greek. If y’all could give me advice or sources, it’d be greatly appreciated. I know some Ancient Greek and Modern Greek. Thank y’all!

I am quite amazed of not having Greek Language in game

Josephus:

>I have also taken a great deal of pains to obtain the learning of the Greeks; and understand the elements of the Greek language: although I have so long accustomed my self to speak our own tongue, that I cannot pronounce Greek with sufficient exactness. for our nation does not encourage those that learn the languages of many nations, and so adorn their discourses with the smoothness of their periods; because they look upon this sort of accomplishment as common, not only to all sorts of free-men, but to as many of the servants as please to learn them. But they give him the testimony of being a wise man who is fully acquainted with our laws, and is able to interpret their meaning; (The Antiquities of the Jews, 20.263-264)