Just out of curiosity, does anyone else think Francesca has it (somewhat) easy with Elizabeth? I saw this on another post somewhere else, and it kind of discussed how Francesca could have it so much worse than Elizabeth. Now, Elizabeth is definitely not the best but Francesca definitely has it easier compared to what Kate dealt with when she had Rocky from 3, Jen from 5, and Simon from 7. Does anyone else agree ???
I have to take a deep breath everytime I see Francesca screaming or yelling or insulting or even belittling Elizabeth in front of everyone.
If you want to tell someone something surely the best way is not to insult them....I've never seen any boss achieve anything by screaming at their team. Sure Elizabeth makes mistakes but not only we have seen far worse stews and also just show her.
I'm glad that the show has done a tremendous job at highlighting the numerous times were Francesca and Ash were chatting and talking behind her back while Elizabeth was all alone serving guests.
I do hope Francesca feels ashamed of herself when she sees her terrible behaviour on the boat. And she's not even good at her job... how many times does she drop the ball with expediting, or orders and more.
I am not sure if I can finish the season...just my opinion. Lol needed to vent.
It’s very important for me to have Dolores as a middle name for a daughter. My husband and I currently like the name “Francesca” as a first name. How do the two sound together? Francesca Dolores...too wordy? I kind of like the flow ...
Izzy is a bore and her hatred towards Francesca is so weird and unfounded.
Izzy should never have accepted a job in the interior if she hates it so much. That's on her. Francesca did nothing negative towards her, she was just being a chief stew (and a very calm one at that - Kate would have ripped her a new ***hole). Izzy managed to go into exterior and then harbored some weird resentment towards Francesca cause.... why? she's so dumb and honestly I could do without her
Seriously, she sucks. She's sort of half adequate at her own job and the way she handles her 2nd and 3rd stews is unprofessional and rude. Especially the various cry-fests and talking with Ashling about how much she hates Elizabeth.
Downvote me, I don't care! Down with Chess!
I follow Francesca on instagram and she gets so many comments about how mean she is and how she is so hard on Elizabeth and is the villain of the season. On Elizabeths instagram she gets all these comments about how she's such a light and she should just ignore Francesca and her evil little "mini me" Ashling.
I love Francesca and cannot stand Elizabeth and I know there are people who feel the opposite - I am genuinely asking for people to explain what it is they like about Elizabeth and why they think Francesca is a terrible boss because I simply don't see it! Also not loving all the comments I see on reddit and instagram about how Francesca is just jealous of the attention Elizabeth gets from guys....
Personally I really like Francesca, yet I’ve seen a lot of people hating on her online. I don’t get it. People are saying she’s horrible to Elizabeth? Elizabeth is consistently a HORRIBLE worker, and Francesca was patient with her for a long time. But it’s gone on for so long, and at such a level of incompetence, that Francesca completely resents her - and I don’t blame her!
Sure, the resentment has caused Francesca to make passive aggressive comments... but omg... did ya’ll forget about passive aggressive queen Hannah??? Ya’ll don’t think Kate would have EATEN ELIZABETH ALIVE?
Personally, I’m SO excited to see Francesca yell at Elizabeth next week.
Below Deck Galley Talk - Why is Kate on “Team Elizabeth” ??
I’ve been super disappointed in Kate since her last season. First of all, I can’t believe she didn’t go to Captain about Ashton. I respect her for not being a tattle-tale but in this instance she should have rattled. What he did to her was disturbing and it would have saved the season to see him get fired by Lee, who said after the fact he wished she had told him.
Next, Kate takes Captain Sandy’s side in that ridiculous drama with Hannah where Hannah was clearly being targeted due to jealousy. The same Kate who joked about taking Ambien for funsies with Ben on camera. The same Kate who worked with and defended Kat for taking Xanax(anxiety meds) on the clock. She clearly just has beef with Hannah and wants to be loved by Andy/Bravo.
Finally, she is now on Galley Talk trashing Francesca and acting like Elizabeth is some cool, rebellious girl with a heart of gold who is being treated unfairly. Look, Francesca doesn’t always have the best delivery but she has been completely correct about Elizabeth and her lack of work ethic. You cannot tell me Kate wouldn’t have gotten Elizabeth fired weeks ago if she was still there. I don’t buy at all that Kate thinks Elizabeth is a good worker, she is just trying to take Francesca down a notch due to what I can only assume is a bit of jealousy.
I’m disappointed to see this side of Kate since I was always such a big fan but I’m completely over her now and fine that she’s off the show.
I know this is being discussed for the umpteenth time, but after the latest episode, I'm going to add to this ongoing debate. Buckle up, because this is going to be a vent lol.
First, I stand with Francesca. I actually really like her as a Chief Stew, and I'd like to see her back for a second season. I don't think she's the 'perfect' leader, but I think she has a lot of potential, and I sense that perhaps she's not 'reality tv' material (and I don't say that as an insult). Perhaps she might open up more on another season. Regarding Elizabeth, I don't doubt that she's a kind sweet gal. I don't have anything personal against her, but she is definitely SLACKING on the job. Is she trying? Yes. Do I believe she is putting in HER 100%? Yes. But sometimes, our 100% isn't enough. If I think back to my first service jobs, I was a lot like Elizabeth in the sense that I didn't understand the urgency of the job. I was trying my best, but my best wasn't cutting it. I was very sensitive to any criticism and too often took it as a personal attack, and in hindsight, I can see why people would be frustrated working with me.
Now with how Francesca is managing Elizabeth, I think she made the right decision in demoting her. Elizabeth has shown in every episode, on multiple occasions, that she is slacking a lot. Then she goes to moan at everyone, making Francesca seem like some villain that I just can't see (I mean imagine if Kate had to manage Elizabeth...). I wish people would start babying Elizabeth and treating her like a wounded bird that needs to be nurtured. She's a full grown adult and the way the crew treats her is actually holding her back from growing and taking real accountability.
HOWEVER, and while I still stand with Francesca, I was disappointed in how she spoke to Elizabeth in the latest episode. I think Francesca was projecting her hurt feelings over hearing Izzy and Elizabeth (which I don't blame her, especially as Izzy was being plain mean). I think Francesca was irked that she couldn't get Elizabeth fired, and she just needs to let it go now and lose the animosity against Elizabeth (because this last episode is the only time I would say Francesca was behaving over bearing). She should have given Elizabeth a chance to air her grievances and ask how she could better support her as a leader.
My wife and I (also a woman if that matters) have just found out we’re having a girl! Second baby, first is named Caspian.
I’m hyper fixated on the name Francesca with the nickname Frankie. I am dreaming about this baby being called Frankie. My wife has some concerns, namely that we are not Italian and it might be inappropriate since we are not.
So tell me, do you think Francesca automatically equals Italian? My wife says she thinks the same of a name like Isabella, and my stance is most people don’t automatically think of Isabella as an Italian person either.
So, solve this one for us. Do you automatically think someone named Francesca would be Italian? And do you think it’s much of an issue if someone thinks it is Italian? Our surname is very obviously a Scottish surname (think MacDougal or MacLennan).
Which is better? Im turning 21 and want to go to an Italian restaurant for my birthday. Ive been to francescas (syracuse location) once and loved it. Ive never been to rosalies however. Any thoughts?
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Idk if I’m the only one but I want to see more of Francesca in season 2. Maybe they could make Eloise and Francesca debut at the same time? It makes sense since they’re only a year apart and Eloise was held back a year. They could show us how different these two sisters are approaching their debut. I can imagine Eloise pushing all her suitors to Francesca lol. Also include the scene where both of them >! bribed a maid to tell them about the marital act and maybe include Penelope in this! !< Also, it makes sense to have Daphne in this season because she would be helping Violet with their debuts. Anthony would be busy searching for a wife and Benedict and Colin would be busy with whatever their storyline is for this season.
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I hope she returns for more seasons.
Francesca is a good working stew, but she lacks patience and doesn't neccessarily go about everything the right way 100%. She's also been a bit mean to Elizabeth, but at times her anger is valid and that there are some mistakes you can't make.
Elizabeth damn near killed everyone on the boat with chlorine gas, she makes alot of mistakes, lacks self awareness, and at times has a pretty pore work ethic. At times shes definitely gotten to much hate from Francesca no doubt, and at times just is stuck between a rock and a hard place and gets all the flak.
Both are at fault and both don't work well together..... lol
I'm just saying you don't have to be on a team. Just that both have their flaws and that sometimes both of them butt heads.
I don't think Francesca would last a full season. They would butt heads for sure.
BUT, At the same time I'd love to see someone talk to Fran the same way she talks to Elizabeth and Sandy would definitely do that lol
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She doesn’t seem to be cut out for reality TV for me. For instance, she seemed annoyed when Captain Lee and Timo were drinking the red wine, and she has also commented on Rachel’s sense of humour as not being as refined as hers. She just seems to have a stick up her ass all the time...