The fun is in the footnotes
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Book with lots of footnotes?

Hey everybody, I absolutely love books that have lots of footnotes that explain things about the world, or (if translated) cultural references. I haven't found many books that have either in fantasy though.

I'd appreciate any recommendations! Thank you!

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That last Footnotes was, er... something, wasnโ€™t it?

What next? Dame Edna will be on to do 20 minutes of non-Rocky related schtick? It was like listening to a morning show interview of someone plugging their podcast. Reminds me of when the gang does their own press junket with Jamie feigning shame over the premise of the program - something he really doesnโ€™t feel.

I hated that this didnโ€™t feel like I was listening to MDWAP. Everyone was just going through the motions - these two actors just doing morning improv around a predetermined setup and the only laughter being polite laughter whenever the hosts could get a word in edgewise.

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The fun is in the footnotes
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Transcribed Fairy/Faerie quotations: a Scammer Timeline footnote

So as part of my Scammer timeline, I wanted to transcribe the Fairy/Faerie quotes, but holy moly, she has posted a bazillion of them. I decided to make it a separate post from the timeline since it was so long. I didnโ€™t catch every group of fairies she posted, but I think I only missed one โ€œflash saleโ€? These are all the ones I was able to find and read, if anyone has shots of the ones Iโ€™m missing, please send them my way! I also couldnโ€™t read all of them because some were on too light of paper with the bad photo quality, so take my translations of some with a grain of salt. She swapped between spelling them Fairy and Faerie with no apparent reason, so I kept whichever one she wrote on there. There were also some she definitely tried to resell after supposedly selling the first time, and I have those noted. I was surprised, but most the quotes were actually new writing with only some recycled lines, so this is indicating she has actually written more of Scammer than sheโ€™s let on. I have noted at the end which lines were from already published work, and which work of hers they came from.

Content warning: some of the quotes are gruesome depictions of death, depression, and contain suicide mentions.

First round of Faeries, transcribed by /u/Bookgills:

Gallery of First Round Faeries

ยท The Hazel Catkin Faerie: I don't know what, as a child, made me believe that becoming a famous memoirist was going to solve all my problems since all anyone ever told me was to pick a different goal. But I latched onto a vision of myself in a ball gown with flowers in my hair, inside a castle, inside a story that was true -Line from 5th paragraph of IAMCC

ยท The Scarlett Faerie: But let's take this story from the top! I am - ACTUALLY - Caroline Calloway, but I wasn't always. Like lots of artists, I changed my name-Line from 2nd paragraph of IAMCC

ยท The Dandelion Faerie (1): If you build a life around an identity that springs from your own imagination is it ever fake or inauthentic? -Line from 4th paragraph of IAMCC

ยท The Forest Faerie: My Dad didn't shout every night, but that made it harder to predict when it would happen, and harder to heal from in the years after it did

ยท The Bluebell Faerie (1): When the curtain comes up, everything is a mess. And for a while it seems like chapter one is where glamorous plans go down in flames. Then one day in Europe, when I least expect it, I meet the Swedish boy who will change my life forever - o

... keep reading on reddit โžก

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Entry 5 and footnote f in this solvent screening for an organic reaction
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[Ryen Russillo] If you doing footnote champions, let's face it there isn't a bigger footnote than Toronto last season. I think they got more of a pass, they weren't going beat Warriors if Durant and Klay played.

Ryen Russillo: Because they are toronto, they got a pass. They didn't get enough shit for winning over a team without their 2 main guys. Any other American teams that won a title that way would've gotten way more shit. 51:45 mark

https://www.theringer.com/the-bill-simmons-podcast/2020/10/7/21505605/la-lakers-near-a-12th-title-and-remembering-eddie-van-halen-with-ryen-russillo-and-chuck-klosterman

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Footnotes in fiction

I'm current reading (or rather listening) to Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell and I am enjoying the use of footnotes to add flavour and help with the worldbuilding. I can understand why they aren't used or encouraged but I wonder how common in fantasy writing footnotes are out if people have any views/opinions on them?

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Layman Pang and the Hammer: Explanatory Footnotes

>When Danxia held up a whisk, Layman Pang held up a hammer. When Danxia tossed his whisk down, Layman Pang put his hammer down. The next day, Layman Pang said, "How do you interpret yesterday's case?" Danxia relaxed and reclined. Layman Pang left. Are these not real knowers? How could this admit of your arbitrary explanations, or permit you to add explanatory footnotes?

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"You're here, I'll teach you."

"I'm here to work."

"No need to whip you then."

"Then I won't work."

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"What did you understand?"

"No need to teach, no need to work."

"No work, I'm leaving."

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Can I buy a bible that has no footnotes or annotations?

Title says it all, thank you for taking the time to consider my question.

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Stories with footnotes

I'm writing a story where I've taken some liberties regarding canon and characterizations, and I'd really like to explain some decisions to readers. In your opinion, would it be at all jarring or detracting to sprinkle in some footnotes mid-text^(1), so that in the author's notes I can explain certain things more easily? Better yet, has anyone read any fic with this feature to it?

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The Fairmormon video on the BoM translation said Jeremy R was โ€œstupidโ€ for comparing this JST to Matthew 25 and itโ€™s literally in the footnotes...
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[Bill Russell] Racism Is Not a Historical Footnote theplayerstribune.com/gloโ€ฆ
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The small footnote that says "354" on it has "Feb 2021" underneath. why.
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My 2011 law textbook made a pop culture joke in the footnotes linking to this website. I was shocked that it still worked. lynchnet.com/lh/lhst.html
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Welcome to No Nonsense November. Memes are banned. All comments must be accompanied by footnotes and citations. Weekly Discussion Thread, November 2nd, 2020

Welcome to our discussion/chatroom thread where pretty anything goes, as long as it may not be too unreasonable! Your choice if you want to discuss VTuber related things or other stuff here!

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Is "footnote-mining" okay?

History grad student here. I have been wondering for a while what people make of "footnote mining."

By that I mean: When I do my reading of the secondary literature before starting to write an article/book chapter, I often try to look up and locate the sources in the footnotes/endnotes. This often is a good way to find relevant secondary literature and primary sources. Now, when I later end up citing secondary literature and (more importantly) primary sources first found in another historian's work, it is my understanding that I do not have to acknowledge where I found the source, but can simply cite the original source (for example the primary source that I first learned about in another historian's work but then located myself) and do not have to add something like "also see/also cited in....".

Am I correct that this is generally seen as acceptable? A quick search on google seems to suggest so:

https://onelastsketch.wordpress.com/2013/01/16/footnote-mining-and-interdisciplinary-research/

http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/004608.html

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskAcademia/comments/dz4cnx/do_i_need_to_acknowledge_it_if_a_primary_source_i/

However, I am wondering where one would draw the line? Using a few primary sources that another historian working on a similar topic has used as well is surely fine and probably unavoidable. But what if it is more than that?

Thanks!

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Damn. If Boston gets rid of one more a**hole, itโ€™ll be a hell of a lot harder to hate them. FOOTNOTE: Itโ€™s just a joke, Bruins fans, donโ€™t get all salty.
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Legal writing, in line citations or footnotes?

I started to use footnotes because it does not disrupt the body of the text. You would never read a scientific text interspliced with non-prose. But, I'm getting pushback. It just looks wrong to many old attorneys and law review academic types. Thoughts?

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Totally necessary footnote
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Footnote: The Day Before Roger Stone Received a Pre-Written Pardon, He Lied about the Ongoing Investigation into His Conspiracy with Russia | emptywheel emptywheel.net/2020/12/24โ€ฆ
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Footnote 119 - BUTTONS

The morse code in the footnote starting on page 103 spells out BUTTONS.

Trouble is, I havenโ€™t the foggiest what this could suggest - any one have any ideas?

(Without spoilers please!)

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Unpopular opinion: poetry books should be bilingual, providing the original language in which it was written (with a transcription if necessary) and its translation. Footnotes explaining nuances may also be a good means to overcome the language barrier.

I get the price would sky-rocket, but I think of all literary genres, poetry is the most reliant on cultural aspects and especially linguistic ones.

Translating poetry must be one of the hardest things to do. I remember this anecdote my literature teacher told us, about this Hispanic-Chinese woman (Marcela de Juan) who translated Ancient Chinese poems into Spanish by using Medieval Spanish vocabulary and I remember it being a hugely different experience. Translated poetry almost acts as a different version to the original poem itself, and there's something beautiful and odd about it. That's why I think we should be โ€˜forcedโ€™ to enjoy both.

Edit: I believed it to be unpopular since I kind of said they โ€˜mustโ€™ be translated (i.e. compulsory for all copies), apparently I was wrong and most people share this opinion. In my country however, most poetry books are solely published in its translated version; I am aware there are quite a few publishing houses doing it like this, even Penguin Classics with texts written in older forms of English, but didn't know it was as ubiquitous as people here point out. I'd just like it to be the general rule.

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Footnote
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โ€œOne day America and all its presidents will be a footnote in history, but the kingdom of Jesus will never end, as long as women never leave the kitchenโ€ โ€” John Piper

It's important that we maintain priorities.

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Kavanaugh comes out in support of Bush v. Gore in footnote to DNC v. Wisconsin State Legislature
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Where do I find SCP-2316's footnotes?

Normally they are at the bottom, but they aren't there.

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I hope grandma and the MAGAidiot makes the Republican Party an historical footnote
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The UN yesterday rescheduled cannabis but this is only a very small step in the right direction as they voted down 5 other reccomendations including 1 on removing CBD products with 0.2%THC from the scheduling by adding a footnote. This and more cover in yesterday's 420News ๐Ÿ’šโœŠ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ช youtu.be/ZYT9jskD9b4
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Warren Buffettโ€™s Berkshire Hathaway could be scooping up shares of a certain company in secret. The conglomerate released its quarterly 13F regulatory filing Monday evening, and there was a line included in the footnote โ€” โ€œConfidential information has been omitted from the public Form 13F report.โ€ cnbc.com/2020/11/17/warreโ€ฆ
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Ready Player One and Ready Player Two truly are the apotheosis of Western canon. In the coming centuries, Chaucer and Shakespeare will all be considered minor footnotes in history compared to the unprecedented literary genius of Ernest Cline.
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Whenever I read classics, I always see references to history, other works of literature, and fictional and non-fictional characters. These are always accompanied by a footnote or reference explaining the term, but the references were not part of the original. Were people more erudite back then?

Right now, I am reading Twenty-Thousand Leagues Under the Sea by Jules Verne, and I frequently see mentions of characters in Greek mythology, battles in ancient history, vague historical figures etc. There is always a footnote or reference in the appendix explaining the term, but these couldn't have been part of the original and were added later. Thus, if you didn't understand a reference to some outside event or figure at the time of publishing, you would have to research it. Why did Verne (and other authors) write about outside events and figures as if his audience understood these references already? Were people at the time more knowledgeable about history and literature than today?

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Lady Gaga - The Making Of '911' | Vevo Footnotes youtu.be/DCnlpGN0A4M
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Favourite footnote? Celebrity interview and non celebrity one?

I remember enjoying the โ€œthereโ€™s-no-such-thing-as-a-pornoโ€ (or whatever that was called), and that one where they were explaining about female genitalia (I know itโ€™s a strange pick, but I thatโ€™s what remember enjoying a lot). Iโ€™m sure thereโ€™s a lot Iโ€™m forgetting, but whatever. And for my favourite celebrity footnote... I loved the one of Dame Emma Thompson, sheโ€™s so classy and well spoken, and showed to have a great sense of humor, I loved her explanations about sex and sexuality, I found a deep respect for her after that. And second would be the one of Michael Sheen, so chaotic and absolutely hilarious, I loved every second of that.

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Why do the footnotes in my book not seem to apply to the page number they are listing?

I'm reading "A Mind For Numbers" by Barbara Oakley and I'm about 3 chapters in. She uses footnotes sometimes but they never seem to actually reference anything on the page number she lists on the footnote. I keep checking but it's all just random, unless I'm missing the point of each footnote every time.

This is an example of a footnote on the first page of the 3rd chapter that I don't understand. She writes, "Or you can work on something that occupies other parts of your brain: listening to music, conjugating Spanish verbs, or cleaning your gerbil cage. ^1 (idk how to write a footnote in windows) But the first page only talks about how she didn't like math or science and other specific examples of things that she didn't grasp the concept of at a young age.

Can anyone explain this weird usage of footnotes?

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How to cite a footnote already citing something else?

I'm doing some research work for a professor and am just completely lost on how to write this cite. He wants to cite the footnote of an article that is citing/explaining a second article. I'm guessing I have to include this second article in my citation, but I don't exactly know how. He wants to use an explanatory citation for this also, so I'm trying to figure out how to Frankenstein this citation within a citation explanatory parenthetical.

I'm not on law review or anything, so any help anyone can provide would be amazing! I've been looking at the blue book for ages and can't seem to find a concrete answer.

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Biopics, in general, are not good choices for artistic films. They merely become footnotes of the individual's history that they're based on rather than having their own unique artistic identity.

Unless they're so unique such as I'm Not There (based on Bob Dylan) by Todd Haynes. When I think of I'm Not There, I don't think only about Dylan but also about how unique the non-linear screenplay was and the splendid performance of Cate Blanchett as Dylan i.e it has its own artistic identity.

Whereas the bulk of biopics such as A Beautiful Mind, Imitation Game, Bohemian Rhapsody, Social Network etc. are fine films but they lack their own unique footprint and are more likely to be remembered based on the individual that they're based on.

Another aspect is that biopics also sensationalize the topic at hand and often end up portraying inaccurate incidences around the individual's life. Imo, documentaries are better than biopics for this reason.

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Is there a way to automatically organize footnotes while writing a paper?

So I am in the medical field, and write articles for research, journals, etc pretty frequently. Formatting reference for my writing is done by assigning a superscript number, in order of appearance in the paper, to a source. So, you have a main body paragraph with superscript numbers at the end of sentences that correspond to a cited source in the references section. When I am writing, my sourcing process typically goes like this:

I write my draft, and cite sources as I use them in the references section and main body paragraphs. As I add in more sources and edit my papers, the sources inevitably become pretty out of order. So then the last thing I do with my final draft is to go back and renumber the sources based on when they occur in the paper, and reorder the resources section. This takes forever, and can get confusing, especially if I miss a source that I need to cite, and have to start over.

My question is-Is there an easier way to do this? Is there a way to place a source citation in your papers that will reorder them by number for you as you write? I would really like to not have to keep spending hours and hours reordering my sources.

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Footnote honestly feels like a new game on the ps5

Seriously. The graphics are significantly better, I keep noticing small details that werenโ€™t in the game before, and best of all, the performance is sooo good. I actually havenโ€™t had any micro stutters or frame drops I donโ€™t think. Itโ€™s like the ps5 is a decent pc.

It feels great, and the game feels really enjoyable right now with all these upgrades.

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Revisiting Inferno after about a decade. Left one for lucid prose translation. Middle one obfuscates meaning by forcing a rhyme scheme but has useful footnotes. Book at right is pretty cool companion to the Divine Comedy by a local Prof; basically an overlong book of footnotes.
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When you think about it,the sequels are a footnote

As hyped up and seemingly important the sequels are, they honestly don't add a whole lot to the overall story of star wars.

The first order resistance war only lasted 1 year. The time in between new hope and empire strikes back is 2 years,for reference. And honestly, it's nothing special,it's a paramilitary and an imperial remnant fighting each other on like, 4 planets. Who knows how many times that's happened with other imperial remnants and resistance movements. It's been 3 decades since the fall of the empire,small wars like that must have happened all the time. I know we here at the star wars reddit have have shit on the sequels for years now,but this needed to be addressed.

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One of these is sponsored by Satan and drunken by heathens. The other is totally okay by MoGod and drunken by God's chosen in high quantity. (Footnote: the one that is sponsored by Satan generally makes you live longer and healthier.)
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Christofferson amends "bitter fruit" reference with footnote in online version

โ€œIn giving this example, I am speaking of potential adverse consequences to children as โ€˜bitter fruitโ€™ and not of the children themselves. Every child of God is precious, and every life has priceless value regardless of the circumstances of birth.โ€

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Time Magazine editor Richard Stengel predicts, โ€œAssange will be a footnote five years from now.โ€ [10YA - Dec 16] rawstory.com/2010/12/timeโ€ฆ
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Scanning Christoffersen's bitter fruit talk from October and now they've added this footnote.
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How is the American revolutionary war covered during history classes in other countries? Is it merely a footnote or is it big?
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