“War was always here. Before man was, war waited for him. The ultimate trade awaiting its ultimate practitioner.” (McCarthy 2015: 208)
So goes one of many hymnal monologues of Judge Holden, the devilish enigma that sears through author Cormac McCarthy’s novelised elegy on the burgeoning of Americana - the canonical account of westward expansion, Blood Meridian. Shepherding the Glanton Gang in the companionship of its eponymous leader, the Judge traverses the torrid sands along United States-Mexico borderlands. This coven of deadbeats and delinquents conjure onslaughts on Apaches and collect their scalps (initially for bounty and eventually for sport), leaving a rugged red carpet of bones and blood in their trailing dust cloud. Like some tribal drumroll, the story unfolds with a view of the debauched meanderings of a teenage runaway, nondescriptly called the Kid, and evenly sprawls into a Boschian inferno as he stumbles upon the hooves of the Judge, whenceforth he undergoes a rebirth into a scalp-hunter. Far from a philistine, the Judge exudes a preternatural sensibility for things philosophical and scientific as he lectures his herd. With a biblical cadence, he strays into Darwinian soliloquies about the violent nature of man and descriptions that hail war as the divine, whilst manifesting an eclectic erudition ranging from disciplines like palaeontology to chemistry. In equal measure, he is an adept sadist who prolifically excels at killing and raping children - serving as the prophetic tabula from which his pack of criminals can draw from as they rob, torture and murder about The American Frontier.
The narrative, which appears to obfuscate the distinction between Gnosticism and a scientifically-construed nihilism as it depicts these depraved men go about their trade with a spiritual grace, bleeds with Nietzsche’s adage: “when you stare for a long time into an abyss, the abyss stares back at you” (2002: 69). Such is the condition of the Kid as he mimics the trot of the world before him. Moreover, such is the duality of the Judge, and, as McCarthy’s novel ultimately confesses, humanity altogether. At its heart this ruthless epic seems to examine how the human subject balances to this pendulum between his fetal propensity for (self-)destruction and the exterior sublimity he believes the Earth has predestined to serve him. Whilst this problem stands starkly at the foundation of American civilization, it hauntingly echoes through the global network of n... keep reading on reddit ➡
I'm working my way through Oathbringer, and there's the epigraphs that are quotes from the in-world book Oathbringer. I'm a little ways into the book, but so far it hasn't given the name of the author for Oathbringer. The quotes are ominous, foreboding, and feels like it's meant to hint at something that's being built up for a later reveal, and it's making me very curious about who the author is, especially when considering the noticeable lack of who the author is. I have a couple of suspicions, though.
I really want to know, but I'm not sure if it's an important detail or some sort of spoiler, and if it is then I don't want to ruin it for myself by finding it out prematurely. So, is the identity of the author a spoiler, or is it just something I'm overturning and it doesn't actually matter?
Dread Emperor Vindictive the First
Dread Emperor Vindictive II
Dread Empress Vindictive III
> Black knuckled an old denarii with Dread Empress Vindictive’s face on it, allowing the silver to spin between his fingers
Dread Empress Maledicta II
> “Yet this mill has ground out more than what you castigate, Amadeus,” Alaya pointed out. “It has whelped derelicts and disasters, true, but not only these: Maleficent first and second, Terribilis of the same. Sorcerous and Maledicta. Some of these were greater than others, but all were potent rulers.”
Dread Empress Malicia the First
I, uh, no comment.
Dread Emperor Malevolent I, the Unhallowed
Dread Empress Malevolent II
Dread Emperor Malevolent III, the Pithy
> Tonight they had, by informal agreement, chosen to sit by Dread Emperor Malevolent III. ‘The Pithy’, the histories of Praes named him. As far as Amadeus knew, he’d done little in his ten years or reigning save for putting a goblin rebellion and failing spectacularly at making the empire a naval power.
Dread Emperor Foul I, the Frugal
Dread Empress Foul II, the Forthright
Dread Emperor Foul III, “the Linguist”
> “There was once a man, to the far east,” I quietly told Pallas. “He was a killer among killers, and among that red number there were none more loathsome. So when he claimed the Tower, Foul was the title he took. Third of his name, and last.”
Dread Empress Malignant I
Dread Emperor Malignant II
> “Perhaps not to the extent of the Calamites,” Akua noted, “but you would be surprised. The most famous example would be the Black Knight and Chancellor of Malignant the Second, who all histories agree loved him deeply. It is why the man reigned a full decade and a half while his handling of the Empire can most charitably be describe as occasionally benign ineptitude.”
Dread Emperor Malignant III, before his death and second reign as Dread Emperor Revenant
> “Traitorous?” she smiled. “Oh, youth. You are barely even a Malignant.” > > Hadn’t one of those started the War of Thirteen Tyrants and One? No, I decided, it’d been the First War of the Dead. Gods, the Praesi had had so many damned civil wars. Procer could try as it might – and most definitely had – it had a few centuries of catching up to do before it could even begin to rival the Wasteland in this regard. > > “Third?” Hakram asked. > > “Second, of course,” Akua daintily replied.
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I haven't played SG0 yet and I wanted to read the plot of the epigraph trilogy but I was wondering if they are related or the same on that matter, and they will spoil SG0.
Novel with Chapter Epigraphs - A quote used to introduce a chapter, it often serves as a summary or counterpoint to the passage that follows, although it may simply set the stage for it. HARD MODE: Original to the novel (i.e., not a quotation from another source).
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I thought I'd leave this post here, and maybe other people have something to contribute, about the epigraphs and the different languages spoken by different characters. I haven't done a thorough scan for non-english quotes from characters outside of part 1, and I haven't been able to figure out all the languages featured (I've more or less just checked quotes under google translate, I'm a monolingual with just enough Spanish to read YA, so I'm not the best person for translations here), but I did listen to the excellent audiobook narrated by Dion Graham, which provides translations for all the epigraphs to each part, and I thought I'd share what I have found so far, and hopefully somebody here will know better than me (maybe some native or bilingual speakers?)
So the 57 chapter's epigraph (in Way of Kings), wich is a death rattle quote, says this "I hold the suckling child in my hands, a knife at his throat, and know that all who live wish me to let the blade slip. Spill its blood upon the ground, over my hands, and with it gain us further breath to draw". I don't know if this has been answered or not, but has anyone look into this? Because my first thoughts were that it was refered to biocromatics breathes but that doesnt really make sense since you don't have to kill anybody in order to get its breath (in fact you cant). Ive read that it could be refered to Odium's champion being Gabinor but that doesnt make sense to me since champions have to agree in order to be a champion. Anything am I missing?
It is a quote from Juan Ramon Jimenez that reads "If they give you ruled paper, write the other way."
Jimenez is a poet and I am looking for the source of this quote. Only thing that comes up on google is the association of the quote with Bradbury's novella, but nothing on where it comes from. Can anyone here help me out?
Thought it would be handy to have the complete Rhythm of War epigraphs in one place. Enjoy and lets discuss! Obviously spoilers ahead!
Lecture on fabrial mechanics presented by Navani Kholin to the coalition of monarchs.
First you must get a spren to approach.
The type of gemstone is relevant; some spren are naturally more intergued by certain gemstones. In addition, it is essential to calm the spren with something it knows and loves. A good fire for a flamespren, for example, is a must.
Next, let the spren inspect your trap. The gemstone must not be fully infused, but also cannot be fully dun. Experiments have concluded the seventy percent of maximum Stormlight capacity works best.
If you have done your work correctly, the spren will become fascinated by its soon-to-be prison. It will dance around the stone, peek at it, float around it.
The final step in capturing spren is the most tricky, as you must remove the Stormlight from the gemstone. The specific techniques employed by each artifabrian guild are closely guarded secret, entrusted only to their most senior members.
The easiest method would be the use of a larkin-a type of cremling that feasts on Stormlight. That would be wonderful and convenient if the creatures weren’t now almost extinct. The wars in Aimia were a part over these seemingly innocent little creatures.
To draw Stormlight out of a gemstone, I use the Arnist Method. Several large empty gemstones are brought close to the infused one while the spren is inspecting it. Stormlight is slowly absorbed from a small gemstone by a very large gemstone of the same type - and several together can draw the Light out quickly. The method’s limitations is, of course, the fact that you need not merely acquire one gemstone for your fabrial, but several larger ones to withdraw the Stormlight.
Other methods must exist, as proven by the extremely large gemstone fabrials created by the Vriztl Guild out of Thaylenah. If Her Majesty would please repeat my request to the guild, this secret is of vital importance to the war effort.
If the Stormlight in a gemstone is withdrawn quickly enough, a nearby spren can be sucked into the gemstone. This is caused by a similar effect to a pressure differential, created by the sudden withdrawal... keep reading on reddit ➡
I've been sitting gently on the edge of writing an album as "Fisher Kel Tath."
Does anyone know the legality of such a thing? I'd happily release the final project for free. Would I be in a danger zone for using the pseudonym "Fisher Kel Tath" or even just "Fisher"?
And if I plan on the lyrics to be explicitly just his epigraphs from the books? I think I would be in the clear if everything is free, but I want to be sure and I don't know where to look for answers.
Taking the Dawnshard, known to bind any creature voidish or mortal, he crawled up the steps crafted for Heralds, ten strides tall apiece, toward the grand temple above.
What if "bind" in this sentence doesn't mean "bind" in the sense of "imprison", but means "bind" in the sense of "bond with"?
We know this because there was no El.
I've been looking over the wikis. I thought this was in an epigraph, but maybe it was not. There was something in the books that depicted something like "all men see themselves as on top of the globe looking down on all other" or something along those lines. I don't have searchable copies of the books, if anyone else can help.
I like epigraphs a lot in other books I read, and I want to use them in my own work (if only for stylistic reasons). Is this a bad idea? I haven't heard much discussion about epigraphs aside from a podcast episode unrelated to writing.
I'm in my first Cosmere reread right now (halfway through) and I'm currently at the climax of Well of Ascension. As one who knows how Hero of Ages ends, I just wanted to say that ch53's epigraph was perfectly placed:
>I have a young nephew, one Rashek. He hates all of Khlennium with the passion of envious youth. He hates Alendi even more acutely—though the two have never met—for Rashek feels betrayed that one of our oppressors should have been chosen as the Hero of Ages.
On first pass, I found it neat because this is the chapter where Sazed is trying to save everyone but is unable to but then Vin saves them like the hero she is. It's a cool contrast.
But knowing the end of Hero of Ages, I'll argue Rashek was right (at least partly). The hero of ages was a terrisman. And realizing that in the reread, right here in WOA, blew my mind [even though Rashek was still a horrible person]. Brilliant job Sanderson.
Most death rattles from the Way of Kings have been answered, and one finally made sense- “I awaken in the storm, falling, spinning, grieving.” However, I’ve got a few that I can’t comfortably assign to a plot point yet, and I wanted either your predictions on these or where you think they were fulfilled! Throw out your best guesses!
Note- I included the 8th one because Moash doesn’t fit as the one who saved Kaladin’s life, and Elhokar doesn’t fit as the one who killed his promises. The most Moash had done was talked to him, and the most Elhokar had done was jail him for two weeks. Neither fits as well as other epigraphs have to plot points, so I don’t know whether that applies to Kal’s third ideal.
I am in the very last stages of my PhD, wrapping up the few last sections of my thesis and prepping for a submission around the 1st of December.
In the many theses I read throughout the last 3 years, be it from my institution or others in the country, the vast majority had some form of epigraph on the first page. For many it was something relatively relevant to their topic, sometimes a quote from a conference they attended. For others it was a more "common" quote they felt strongly about, either as a relevant addition to their thesis or something they associated with their PhD experience (lyrics, etc). In some rarer cases I found some humorous ones, sometimes joking about grad school and others just funny anecdotes about their work. I'd say a third had a quote of themselves, and the rest someone else's.
Epigraphs are really appealing to me, as they add a human touch to a work that can be very sciencey and obscure, and can definitely embellish or personalize it if done properly. However, I am still a bit hesitant about which direction I'd prefer to go.
For instance, my PhD is in fisheries ecology and climate change. By itself this already opens up a lot of opportunities given the relevance to famous work in the last decades, some of them perhaps more polarizing and political than others. On the personal side however, I am also a nature enthusiast who got to live and discover Scandinavia thanks to this thesis, as well as an avid wildlife photographer. This photography journey has had a huge place throughout my PhD, and they are so many photographers and naturalists whose work I admire and would like to acknowledge.
So, what are your experience and / or opinion regarding thesis epigraphs? Any advice?
Now I may just be misinterpreting as I haven't seen anyone talk about this but when I read this epigraph in ROW I got insanely hyped. From Harmony:
"I have begun searching for a pathway out of this conundrum by seeking the ideal person to act on my behalf. Someone who embodies both Preservation and Ruin. A … sword, you might say, who can both protect and kill."
As soon as I read "both protect and kill" I instantly thought of Kaladin. I may be biased as he is my favourite character but it seems that it perfectly fits his main character theme, the soldier/surgeon dichotomy. I think it would be quite the arc for books 6-10 if Kaladin ends up being Harmony's right hand. What do you guys think?
>“Three of sixteen ruled, but now the Broken One reigns."
The “Three” here is clearly about Honor, Cultivation, and Odium. My guess is the Broken One is Taravangian, but it could still be something else.
>”The burdens of nine become mine. Why must I carry the madness of them all? Oh, Almighty, release me.”
I think we all assumed this was about Taln taking on the oathpact. However, Dalinar recently figured out their madness is spiritual in nature, so the “madness” in this quote might literally be madness and not “torture”.
I’m thinking someone is going to take the madness of the 9 remaining Heralds and restore them. A bondsmith could probably do it
> “I hold the suckling child in my hands, a knife at his throat, and know that all who live wish me to let the blade slip. Spill its blood upon the ground, over my hands, and with it gain us further breath to draw.”
Another Redditor pointed out that Odiums champion could be Gavinor. He’s already shown some anger and a tendency towards violence.
I’m almost certain this quote is spoken by Dalinar Odium is going to make him kill a child during the duel, even if it’s not Gavinor. It would be way too easy for Odium to manipulate a child
> “In the storm I awaken, falling, spinning, grieving.”
That’s Kaladin. This is just like the one predicting his second Oath in WoK: “Above the final void I hang, friends behind, friends before. The feast I must drink clings to their faces, and the words I must speak spark in my mind. The old oaths will be spoken anew."
> “I wish to sleep. I know now why you do what you do, and I hate you for it. I will not speak of the truths I see.”
That is about Shallan and Formless. Though I wish she would’ve said her last Truth at the end of this book, she’s been at the 4th oath for 3 full books
After finishing RoW I went back and re-read a bunch of the epigraphs from the earlier books. The death rattles in WoK are especially relevant now. Chp. 52, 53, 54, and 55 are some of my favorites.
What proceeded was one of his finest works and a hallmark of literature for centuries to come.
Vengeance is ours, Ravens Flock. Time to repay. May what follows be looked back as one of the finest playoff runs we, or any franchise, will ever have.
Chapter 57 epigraph in The Way of Kings:
“I hold the suckling child in my hands, a knife at his throat, and know that all who live wish me to let the blade slip. Spill it’s blood upon the ground, over my hands, and with it gain is further breath to draw.”
Rhythm of War chapter 47:
Flash. Nale cradling a child in one arm, his Blade out as dark forces crawled across a ridge nearby.
Thoughts? Sorry if this has been mentioned already.
This year will be my first year doing Bingo and for some reason, I've decided to do three cards. Originally I just planned for one general card, however, because I was already almost six months late when I found out about Bingo, I found that what I had several books that I had already read that either doubled up on prompts or were only suitable for SM. For example, I tried Terry Pratchett a couple of times when I was younger, but Guards! Guards! was the first book of his that I had actually finished as an adult. I also found that some SM specific prompts could be filled by books currently sitting on my owned TBR, such as Before the Coffee Gets Cold by Toshikazu Kawaguchi, as well as the preordered upcoming fourth Wayfarer's book by Becky Chambers. At the same time, I still wanted to stretch myself because I'm far too competitive and if I'm not doing HM then what even is the point? Hence, the first two cards.
That was very rambly. All that aside, I'm writing this because I have some SM specific questions.
First of all, Piranesi by Susanna Clarke obviously counts for the exploration square, but if you've read the book could you please tell me whether you consider this book SM or HM (exploration being the main plot)? I can't make up my mind even though I've read the book because the exploration is very important in the first half of the book but definitely less so in the second. I can't decide which card to put it on.
Secondly, as I started filling in the prompts I started to realise that a couple of the SM ones are actually more difficult for me than the HM versions. These are specifically a book with Chapter Epigraphs (which need to NOT be original to the book), and Magical Pets (who need to NOT talk, even telepathically). I'd filled the HM version of these prompts several times over this year without particularly thinking about it, but I can't for the life of me think of an SM version for either. Does anybody have any SM recommendations for me for these prompts?
Finally, originally I hadn't intended to do any substitutions on any of my cards, however, I've run into a problem with the School or University square. HM asks for no Harry Potter or The Magicians. I'm very much done with HP at this point, and I really didn't click with the first book of the Magicians and have no intention of continuing on. Therefore I'm substituting this square for 2019's Personal Rec from r/Fantasy (the most recommended book). ~~I'm mostly trying to stretch myself for Bing... keep reading on reddit ➡
I've been rereading the Epigraphs following a rather in depth read through of most of the Cosmere stories, and I think that some fundamental concepts up to this point have been wrong (or perhaps overlooked).
I’m starting with The Diagram, as it seems on first reading to be fairly straight forward, but on further reading I have come to a few conclusions. The easiest way to read them is start from 89 and go backwards to 76, this forms a narrative about what happens in Words of Radiance. Instead why not consider it as a Ketek and now read it the other way, giving us a glimpse into where the series is going.
Part one: The big picture
> 79 For what essential must we strive? A: The essential of preservation, to shelter a seed of humanity through the coming storm.
Q: What cost must we bear? A: The cost is irrelevant. Mankind must survive. Our burden is that of the species, and all other considerations are but dust by comparison.
This is the crux of it, the focus not on just Roshar, but the Cosmere as a whole. Thanks to Mistborn era 2 there are much bigger things happening. We just don’t know is causing it beyond a few hints.
> 78 Ah but they were left behind. It is obvious from the nature of the bond. But where where where where? Set off. Obvious. Realization like apricity. They are with the Shin. We must find one. Can we make to use a Truthless? Can we craft a weapon?
This passage says a hell of a lot to me. Firstly, the use of the word apricity is very strange, I have had to look it up on every reading to remind myself what it meant “warmth of the sun; basking in the sun”, and well does it not describe feeling Rysn got from the mural. I don’t think this use of language is accidental in fact I would say the opposite. what is he talking of is not the honor blades but, I think, the dawnshards. Secondly, of that the referral back to a truthless and Taravangians thoughts on him towards the end of RoW suggest that maybe his plans for Szeth haven’t ended (more on that later).
Another thing to notice in the Epigraphs is the use of self, we see both I and we, as well as you, which I think is particularly unusual,
> 79 Q: For what essential must we strive? A: The essential of preservation, to shelter a seed of humanity through the coming storm.
Followed by > 80 You must become king. of Everything > 81 a conundrum that may not be worth your time. You cannot help but think of them [...] I do believe a few can think, however.
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These thoughts work from the presumption that Howard was a knowledgeable, intentional writer, and are framed as if I'm a first-time reader, knowing nothing of the stories to come, or the broader mythos. Let's begin, then, with the beginning.
>Know, oh prince, that between the years when the oceans drank Atlantis and the gleaming cities, and the years of the rise of the Sons of Aryas, there was an Age undreamed of, when shining kingdoms lay spread across the world like blue mantles beneath the stars -
We begin by establishing a frame of sorts, hinting at the epistolary. This is a taste of a found document, indented for an important reader. And if the (probably assumed to be) young male reader inserts himself as the prince, so much greater the initial investment.
We of course have the famous reference to Atlantis, and the heaps of mythological associations that come along. But I'm fascinated by the words that come before: oceans drank. This is a clever inversion, the liquid doing the drinking, suggesting a primeval, magical, and somewhat sinister anthropomorphism. It's also perhaps inspired by Mary Shelley's The Last Man, when "Ocean drank in and absorbed my feeble voice, replying with pitiless roar." (I say this because, as far as I can tell, this is a fairly unique construction. Google books isn't the most scholarly resource, but I find very few uses prior to 1932.)
Finally, we have a beautiful, epic vision, which no one prophesied, nor has been explored since. You, reader, are seeing new things, beyond imagining.
>Nemedia, Ophir, Brythunia, Hyperborea, Zamora with its dark-haired women and towers of spider-haunted mystery, Zingara with its chivalry, Koth that bordered on the pastoral lands of Shem, Stygia with its shadow-guarded tombs, Hyrkania whose riders wore steel and silk and gold.
We have here a hearty stew of proper nouns, which could be slapdash worldbuilding if not for the faint hint of reality they all carry. Isn't Zamora a city in Spain? And isn't ‘stygian’ related to the mythic Greek river of death? Is this history connected in some way? We've already been told as much, but if 'stygian' means ‘tomb-like’, then our own language may carry traces.
>But the proudest kingdom of the world was Aquilonia, reigning supreme in the dreaming west.
Atlantis and other great cities were drowned, and now the greatest kingdom has "aqua" as a prefix, suggesting continuity, and perhaps conquest.
The use of 'dreaming' here is also fascinating. W... keep reading on reddit ➡
Hey y'all! I recently discovered a short poem that I think would work really well as an epigraph for my fic. I was just wondering how y'all have formatted epigraphs in your fics, particularly on Ao3 and FFN?
I'm not sure if I should put it in the notes before the first chapter, or in the text of the chapter itself. If it were a quote I would probably just put it in the text but I think it might look weird since it's five (short) lines. How do you guys normally do it?
I recently realized that many of my favorite books in the sci-fi and fantasy genres use epigraphs, particularly at the beginnings of chapters. For example, Sanderson loves them, they're all throughout Dune (the first place I encountered them), and A Memory Called Empire, too.
I think if I saw a book in the genre that I didn't know about, but had epigraphs, I would have to give it a chance. Not to say there's anything wrong with books that don't have them.
What I like about them is that they expand the world without relying on an in-story exposition dump. I also enjoy how they offer information at a trickle, always leaving you wanting a little more. Sometimes they do an excellent job of foreshadowing story elements, or how the things that you just read or are about to read have a further impact on the world. I read them every time.
How about you? Do you like them? Hate them? Indifferent? Do you read them or skip them? Why?
I was reading the epigraphs of tWoK and in the chapter 67 epigraphs we see a person that says that want that his pain stops, and then says the name Daigonarthis, and I imagined a theory. First of all, the name Daigonarthis seems like an Unmade name. It seems like his power it's about to remove the pain of people, but not in the good way, like with totally apathy. Who we now that wants desesperately to not have pain? Exactly, Moash. I think that his contract with Odium includes Daigonarthis removing his pain, and the finall part in RoW, when he becames blind, can be also metaforically refering to his atributte to ignore pain. I hope yuo like my little theory.
Hi! I'm a Stuart historian and lately I've been reading the language dictionaries that were published between 1600 and 1690. The 1661 printing of Thomas Blount's 'Glossographia', sourced from this web archive, contains the epigraph
>"Erasm. Apoph. Ʋt homines, it a libros in dies seipsos meliores fieri oportet."
and I have no idea what it means. I'm not familiar with Latin as a language and I really don't know how standardised Blount's spelling is; casual Googling both the full phrase and parts of it don't seem to return any sort of result, so I'd really appreciate any insight you guys can offer.
(Also I wasn't sure if to tag this for TWOK or general SA)
Are the epigraphs a lie?
Each one says "[..] seconds before death"
Who's collecting these??? HOW?????
I bet this is a RAFO, huh? 🤔
So. Could it be possible to create a fabrial that is capable of producing beads of lerasium.
First, we need the Mists which if i remember correcly are still around in the current era.
Second, a sapphire or smokestone which in Roshar are associated with smoke, gas, fog, air, and inhalation/exhalation.
Thirdly, we know from ROW that you need specific metal cages to get different effects on fabrials, for this Lerasium fabrial a pulling metal would be best but which specific metal i don't know.
And BOOM Lerasium Fabrial.
Now, a fabrial that mass produces Mistborns is over-powered. So if i were to guess it would create a lerasium bead every 300 years or so, kind of like the atium geodes.
So I was talking about Whimsy and wondering which world they would be on and how they would manifest investiture. I couldn't figure it out (Maybe it is a We Happy Few situation. I never played the game, just saw the trailers). But I recently found out that Threnody is a real English word that means "a lament" (or like a sad memorial song. The Crown used it.)
What if Threnody is called that because it was once the home of Whimsy, but something happened that removed Whimsy so now it is a joyless place. A place of sorrow and sadness. In a way, it is a threnody. The planet sticks out because it is an actual English word rather than a fictional name.
In the epigraphs it also says that Ambition, Mercy, and Odium fought in the area around Threnody, but it is never said that Mercy or Ambition were the actual Shards of Threnody. Just that their battle in the area had "disturbing" effects on it.
Maybe the battle corrupted, destroyed, or moved Whimsy. Whimsy could have become the Evil, been driven off by the Evil, killed by the Evil, or maybe the Evil was caused by the absence of Whimsy. All of the above could be "disturbing."
As most of you probably know, each book from the Stormlight Archives contains a letter adressed to or written by Hoid. It appears throughout the epigraphs of each chapter of a part of the book. In RoW, the letter is in the epigraphs of part 2.
This letter is obviously written by Sazed in response to Hoid asking for his help to convince the other Shards to fight against Odium. You can read the other letters from previous books here.
I’m curious to read your thoughts and theories about what this could mean about the Shards, Hoid, and the Cosmere.
I just finished part 2 of RoW so if you want to discuss further spoilers in this post, please use spoiler tags. I’ll be glad to read your comments after I’m done with the book.
Dear Wanderer, I did receive your latest communication. Please forgive formality on my part, as we have not met in person. I feel new to this role, despite my years holding it. You will admit to my relative youth, I think.
I have been fascinated to discover how much you’ve accomplished on Scadrial without me noticing your presence. How is it that you hide from Shards so well?
I have reached out to the others as you requested, and have received a variety of responses.
Much as you indicate, there is a division among the other Shards I would not have anticipated.
Endowment at least responded to my overtures, though I have not been able to locate Invention again following our initial contact.
Whimsy was not terribly useful, and Mercy worries me. I do think that Valor is reasonable, and suggest you approach her again. It has been too long, in her estimation, since your last conversation.
The deaths of both Devotion and Dominion trouble me greatly, as I had not realized this immense power we held was something that could be broken in such a way. On my world, the power always gathered and sought a new Vessel.
That said, the most worrying thing I discovered in this was the wound upon the Spiritual Realm where Ambition, Mercy, and Odium clashed—and Ambition was destroyed. The effects on the planet Threnody have been … disturbing.
Other Shards I cannot identify, and are hidden to me. I fear that their influence encroaches upon my world, yet I am locked into a strange inability because of the opposed powers I hold.
*I have begun searching for a pathway out of this conundrum by seeking the ideal person to act on my behalf. Someone who embodies both Preservation and Ruin.... keep reading on reddit ➡
Navanis artifabrian speech had so much mistborn metal goodness
Zinc wires touching the gemstone will cause the spren inside to more strongly manifest, while brass will cause the spren to withdraw and its power to dim.
Zinc riots, brass sooths
>A bronze cage can create a warning fabrial, alerting one to objects or entities nearby.
What's that you say? A seeker?
>A pewter cage will cause the spren of your fabrial to express its attribute in force
>A tin cage will cause the fabrial to diminish nearby attributes. A painrial, for example, can numb pain.
>An iron cage will create an attractor—a fabrial that draws specific elements to itself.
>New discoveries lead us to believe it is possible to create a repeller fabrial, but we don’t yet know the metal to use to achieve this feat.
Come on Navani, it's steelpushing. )This one is confusing because just before this line she says "Note that advanced designs of cages can use both steel and iron as well, changing the fabrial’s polarity depending on which metals are pushed to touch the gemstone" )
You'd think theyd figure out the relationship of alloys. I'd like to know what a cage of a godmetal does. Or a cage of gold (some sort of projector maybe?). Warp time with a bendalloy cage. Duralumin force multiplier (soup up that 4th bridge). A copper fabrial to block the effects of surge blocking fused fabrials.
Dear Wanderer, I did receive your latest communication. Please forgive formality on my part, as we have not met in person. I feel new to this role, despite my years holding it. You will admit to my relative youth, I think. I have been fascinated to discover how much you’ve accomplished on Scadrial without me noticing your presence. How is it that you hide from Shards so well?
I have reached out to the others as you requested, and have received a variety of responses. Much as you indicate, there is a division among the other Shards I would not have anticipated. Endowment at least responded to my overtures, though I have not been able to locate Invention again following our initial contact. Whimsy was not terribly useful, and Mercy worries me. I do think that Valor is reasonable, and suggest you approach her again. It has been too long, in her estimation, since your last conversation. The deaths of both Devotion and Dominion trouble me greatly, as I had not realized this immense power we held was something that could be broken in such a way. On my world, the power always gathered and sought a new Vessel. That said, the most worrying thing I discovered in this was the wound upon the Spiritual Realm where Ambition, Mercy, and Odium clashed—and Ambition was destroyed. The effects on the planet Threnody have been … disturbing.
Other Shards I cannot identify, and are hidden to me. I fear that their influence encroaches upon my world, yet I am locked into a strange inability because of the opposed powers I hold. I have begun searching for a pathway out of this conundrum by seeking the ideal person to act on my behalf. Someone who embodies both Preservation and Ruin. A … sword, you might say, who can both protect and kill.
But this does not get to the core of your letter. I have encouraged those who would speak to me to heed your warnings, but all seem content to ignore Odium for the time being. In their opinion, he is no threat as long as he remains confined in the Rosharan system. I do not share their attitude. If you can, as you suppose, maintain Odium’s prison for now, it would give us necessary time to plan. This is a threat beyond the capacity of one Shard to face.
Unfortunately, as proven by my own situation, the combination of Shards is not always a path to greater power. We must assume that Odium has realized this, and is seeking a singular, terrible goal: the destruction—and somehow Splintering or otherwise making impotent—of all Shards other than... keep reading on reddit ➡
I've been avoiding reading the sample chapters in order to wait for the full book, but with it coming tomorrow, I figured I might as well get cracking. So, apologies if this has already been mentioned in other discussion threads, but I didn't find anything when I did a search.
I find it absolutely fascinating that the metals used to make the fabrial cages are allomantic metals, and the uses of the cages seem analogous to how they're used in allomancy. For example
>The two metals of primary significance are zinc and brass, which allow you to control expression strength. Zinc wires touching the gemstone will cause the spren inside to more strongly manifest, while brass will cause the spren to withdraw and its power to dim.
Zinc is Rioting the spren, while brass is Soothing it.
>A bronze cage can create a warning fabrial, alerting one to objects or entities nearby. Heliodors are being used for this currently, and there is some good reasoning for this—but other gemstones should be viable.
Bronze is used as a sensor, like how burning it can detect Investiture being used.
So what are the implications? We have a link between the function of the metals allomantically and what they do in fabrials, but these magic systems came from different places. I had always thought allomancy was entirely designed by Preservation (and Ruin, vis a vis Hemalurgy), but this link suggests a deeper fact of the Cosmere.
Did Adonalsium design this behavior on Roshar, which Leras then emulated in allomancy?
Do we know where this is from?
Epigraph:>!“I have recently obtained a chain from the lands of the dead, said to be able to anchor a person through Cognitive anomalies. I fail to see what use it could be to me, as I am unable to leave the Rosharan system. But it is a priceless object nonetheless.”!<