Deep Stone Crypt symbols match Mind-Body Dualism

Not sure if this has been mentioned but one of the symbols in the Clovis Bray mysterious log book (that is also seen around the Bray installations on Europa) bears striking resemblance to René Descartes' illustration of mind/body dualism.

This is the image in question

René Descartes' (who famously said "I think, therefore I am") believed inputs were passed on by the sensory organs to the epiphysis in the brain and from there to the immaterial spirit. Dualism itself differs from Monism in that it assumes the Mind and Body are distinct non-identical entities as opposed to manifestations of a single substance.

This is something known as the Mind–body problem

>The mind–body problem is a debate concerning the relationship between thought and consciousness in the human mind, and the brain as part of the physical body. It is distinct from the question of how mind and body function chemically and physiologically, as that question presupposes an interactionist account of mind–body relations. This question arises when mind and body are considered as distinct, based on the premise that the mind and the body are fundamentally different in nature

So clearly this was an important problem in the field of Exo science as in Destiny there is clearly a duality between the human mind and the Exo body.

The image above stuck in my head because of the hourglass because after hearing "an hourglass counting down with infinite patience", this was actually the first reference to an hourglass in-game that I have encountered.

You can see further imagery from Descartes' papers here and here.

Now one thing I noticed is that in Descartes' image all the lines point to an arrow but in Clovis Bray's diagram they point to an hourglass. The arrow reminded me of the arrow of time (time's arrow, the concept positing the "one-way direction" or "asymmetry" of time) and in particular Entropy as an arrow of time.

>Entropy is one of the few quantities in the physical sciences that require a particular direction for time,

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Does anyone else find it amazing that dualism was realized before science confirmed it?

The fact that a monk over a thousand years ago could come to the conclusion that we were one-in-the-same with the rest of the universe without understanding is incredible.

Now it seems obvious to us because we have one continuous chain from the big bang -> stars -> rocks -> animals -> us

The fact that you can even come to that conclusion without that knowledge is proof that it really is unknowing that gets you there.

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What is your opinion on the brain - computer analogy and the hardware - software dualism? Does it apply for you or not - and why?

For example like Bunge discussed it here: Bunge M. (2010) Brain and Computer: The Hardware/Software Dualism. In: Matter and Mind. Boston Studies in the Philosophy of Science, vol 287. Springer, Dordrecht. https://doi.org/10.1007/978-90-481-9225-0_12

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Possible reference to Cartesian dualism in ivy?

Okay this is probably just because I'm currently watching my psychology lecture while listening to evermore in the background but the lyric "I'd meet you where the spirit meets the bones" made me think of (as us obviously stated in the title😂) Descarte's theory of dualism, also known as the mind-body hypothesis. Dualism is basically just a fancy way of saying that one believes there is a "soul" or "mind" that exists separate from the body, and is responsible for thinking, emotions, etc (so kind of like most religions tbh). What's special about Descartes's theory is that he thinks the soul and body intersect at the pineal gland, a structure that's around the middle of your brain, with the soul controlling the body (like a puppet of sorts) by making the gland vibrate, essentially. So that's what came to mind when I heard that lyric, but it wasn't a complete match, because the pineal gland is, you know, a gland and not bone. But I did a little more digging round and guess what? Pineal glands are often calcified (the primary material bones are constructed of) because of environmental factors! So the pineal gland could literally be "where the spirit meets the bones"! (Ok caffeine rant over, I'll leave the symbolic associations to you guys)

https://preview.redd.it/th8rya7uauc61.png?width=1310&format=png&auto=webp&s=ee8756cf31732eeaa99a0edffd997ef9dcd19ba4

https://preview.redd.it/134yyh7uauc61.png?width=1304&format=png&auto=webp&s=10e1f6cfa8f53fb09975f6643faecb224ee80a57

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How does dualism deal with how drugs are able to affect the "mind" through the "brain"?

isn't that a prove that the "mind" is interdependent with the "brain"?

(Sorry for my English, not my first language)

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Books on non-dualism other than ACIM?

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I’m about to finish ACIM after almost one year and a half and what I found is that after the Course, most other spiritual books fall really really short, as they are but about improving the dream. Those were useful at some point but, obviously, that’s no longer what I’m after. Do you guys know of non-duality books to read after the course?

I’m currently reading the works of Ramana Maharshi and “I am That” by Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj and I LOVE them both.

Thanks!!

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Please may someone help me out, I’m a bit confused about the following:

(Before you read, I should say that I joined this sub out of a desire to learn more about the Buddhist world view, and am not a Buddhist. Concepts from eastern philosophy are very important to me, and have reshaped the way I see the world, but I don’t want any of this to read like I claim to know what I’m talking about. If I misinterpret intended meanings, or am missing the point, I’m posting this in the pursuit of understanding, and don’t mean to ruffle any feathers.)

I thought the yin yang symbol represented the underlying oneness of everything, like the Atman in Hinduism. I thought it meant that there is darkness in light, and light in darkness, and that that was all the universe consisted of: dark light and light dark, nothing is isolated and everything is connected. Nothing is a single unit, because all things connect to all things, therefore nothing is everything. They’re two sides of the same coin. The organs inside a person aren’t separate to the person, they are the person. So in the same way, nothing in the universe is separate from the universe, because everything is the universe.

So because of that, I thought the yin yang represented monism. I thought that nothing and everything, dark and light, are just one thing artificially divided into 2, so we can make sense of the world. A square doesn’t stop being one square if one half is black and the other is white, it’s just one square with 2 different looking halves. The word “dualism” as I (mis)understand it, seems to suggest a binary, two duel halves existing simultaneously.

I didn’t know it was a Taoist symbol, and represented dualism, not Buddhism, which I thought was monistic. I thought the idea of oneness was derived from the atman in Hinduism, and the language and conceptual framework changed as Indian Buddhism merged with other cultural traditions, diversifying into the various flavours of Buddhism found today.

Essentially, I am confused about the distinction between monism and dualism. If dualism is about everything being interconnected, and monism dictates there is only one pure unit, which is the sum total of all of the interconnected things, are they not the same thing? I don’t even know if that makes sense, it makes sense in my head, as more of an image or feeling, but trying to explain that in words when I’ve forgotten how I even got to the worldless image in the first place is tricky.

Are dualism and mo

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Any advice. I have trouble accepting all that I am. I always want to be this or that specific version of me that feels better than the other versions of me. How do I integrate all the parts I love about the different versions of me into one?

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solutions for the problem of causal interactions in substance dualism?

From wikipedia

>One argument against dualism is with regard to causal interaction. If consciousness (the mind) can exist independently of physical reality (the brain), one must explain how physical memories are created concerning consciousness. Dualism must therefore explain how consciousness affects physical reality. One of the main objections to dualistic interactionism is lack of explanation of how the material and immaterial are able to interact. Varieties of dualism according to which an immaterial mind causally affects the material body and vice versa have come under strenuous attack from different quarters, especially in the 20th century. Critics of dualism have often asked how something totally immaterial can affect something totally material—this is the basic problem of causal interaction.
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>First, it is not clear where the interaction would take place. For example, burning one's finger causes pain. Apparently there is some chain of events, leading from the burning of skin, to the stimulation of nerve endings, to something happening in the peripheral nerves of one's body that lead to one's brain, to something happening in a particular part of one's brain, and finally resulting in the sensation of pain. But pain is not supposed to be spatially locatable. It might be responded that the pain "takes place in the brain." But evidently, the pain is in the finger. This may not be a devastating criticism.
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>However, there is a second problem about the interaction. Namely, the question of how the interaction takes place, where in dualism "the mind" is assumed to be non-physical and by definition outside of the realm of science. The mechanism which explains the connection between the mental and the physical would therefore be a philosophical proposition as compared to a scientific theory. For example, compare such a mechanism to a physical mechanism that is well understood. Take a very simple causal relation, such as when a cue ball strikes an eight ball and causes it to go into the pocket. What happens in this case is that the cue ball has a certain amount of momentum as its mass moves across the pool table with a certain velocity, and then that momentum is transferred to the eight ball, which then heads toward the pocket. Compare this to the situation in the brain, where one wants to say that a decision causes some neurons to fire and thus causes a body to move across the room. The intention to "cross the room now

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Is substance dualism a Greek idea that lacks Biblical support?

I was reading a book by N.T. Wright this week and got confused by his rejection of the existence of souls due to it being, in his opinion, inconsistent with Biblical eschatology and not supported by Scripture. And so it got me wondering if it is really true that substance dualism is a Greek idea that lacks Biblical support? If not, what theological, eschatological arguments can be used for substance dualism and disembodied existence?

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Did black and white dualism (Good & Evil) exist in cultures of Africa/Australia where people had almost black skin tones, or did they have something similar to it?

I was thinking about black and white dualism and how white:good black:evil is so ingrained in so many cultures thousands of years ago and continuing into the modern day. Historically this dualism has also been used to perpetuate/reinforce racism against black people, and that idea made me wonder if this symbolism of good vs evil also existed in cultures where people had 'black' skin tones.

If I were to hypothesize (I can delete this bit if it isn't allowed), I'd think that it would be awkward because it could be taken as likening themselves to evil? Would there be a distinction in black like darkness vs black as skin color? In the absence of seeing anyone of other races while developing culture I could see it being less of an issue because without a "white" skin color to compare to they might not even think of their skin color like that as it was just what all people are. (If that plays into it, is there evidence of any influence on their cultural view of black/white dualism after interacting with these people?)

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Ryle argues that Descartes' Dualism is the result of a category mistake youtu.be/gA-2Gc3PztI
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New project: The Brazilian Flame - English translations of Brazilian Marxist articles, videos or podcasts. Today's article: Ethical-moral dualism and theoretical misery: response to the El País article by Jones Manoel.

Hello r/GenZedong, I'm new to this sub but it was the biggest subreddit that I found which included Marxism-Leninism in its description, so here I am. I'm starting a project to translate into English Brazilian Marxist articles, videos, podcasts, etc. called The Brazilian Flame. In this first post, I bring an article that is a masterclass on how to respond to liberal criticism, written by Jones Manoel, an up-and-coming Brazilian Marxist theorist, YouTuber and militant of the Brazilian Communist Party. I hope you enjoy the read. Feel free to send me feedback and suggestions on future authors or content to translate.

Edit: Included the link.

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Are there any books that catalogue/explore non-dualism throughout world religions?

The Perennial Philosophy by Huxley and other works by the Perennialists (which I haven't read) I'm sure explore this, but I was wondering if anyone knew of a definitive text that explores the history of non-dual thought through both the Western and Eastern religions (and maybe even pre-religious thought i.e indigenous thought etc.)

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I'll be attending my first retreat ever next month. It's the standard Goenka, 10-day Vipassana retreat. I understand that the practice that takes place there is what would be considered dualistic. The way it's taught, there's always an object to direct your attention to.

I've been meditating for a few years and always dabbling into non-dualistic practice, where attention encompasses (eventually) everything and there's no particular point of focus, or point from which you are focusing.

I'm wondering how I should proceed once I go on retreat. Should I forget about non-duality and simply meditate as instructed? Or should I, once in a while, try to look for myself, look for the centre, turn attention upon itself?

Thanks for your time.

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1. Cartesian Dualism

If you're still doing it, don't. It is harmful and doesn't exist.

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Deep Stone Crypt symbols match Mind-Body dualism

Not sure if this has been mentioned but one of the symbols in the Clovis Bray mysterious log book (that is also seen around the Bray installations on Europa) bears striking resemblance to René Descartes' illustration of mind/body dualism.

This is the image in question

René Descartes' (who famously said "I think, therefore I am") believed inputs were passed on by the sensory organs to the epiphysis in the brain and from there to the immaterial spirit. Dualism itself differs from Monism in that it assumes the Mind and Body are distinct non-identical entities as opposed to manifestations of a single substance.

This is something known as the Mind–body problem

>The mind–body problem is a debate concerning the relationship between thought and consciousness in the human mind, and the brain as part of the physical body. It is distinct from the question of how mind and body function chemically and physiologically, as that question presupposes an interactionist account of mind–body relations. This question arises when mind and body are considered as distinct, based on the premise that the mind and the body are fundamentally different in nature

So clearly this was an important problem in the field of Exo science as in Destiny there is clearly a duality between the human mind and the Exo body.

The image above stuck in my head because of the hourglass because after hearing "an hourglass counting down with infinite patience", this was actually the first reference to an hourglass in-game that I have encountered.

You can see further imagery from Descartes' papers here and here.

Now one thing I noticed is that in Descartes' image all the lines point to an arrow but in Clovis Bray's diagram they point to an hourglass. The arrow reminded me of the arrow of time (time's arrow, the concept positing the "one-way direction" or "asymmetry" of time) and in particular Entropy as an arrow of time.

>Entropy is one of the few quantities in the physical sciences that require a particular direction for time,

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Is substance dualism a Greek idea that lacks Biblical support?

I was reading a book by N.T. Wright this week and got confused by his rejection of the existence of souls due to it being, in his opinion, inconsistent with Biblical eschatology and not supported by Scripture. And so it got me wondering if it is really true that substance dualism is a Greek idea that lacks Biblical support? If not, what theological, eschatological arguments can be used for substance dualism and disembodied existence?

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