Has there ever been a moment on revisiting old episodes that have made you inhale sharply through gritted teeth and say "yikes"? Like joke about a celebrity about to die or a news story that had yet to develop?
For me off the top of my head I can think of 3 examples
- "2020's going to be a great year! Ha! I cursed us all"- Hellboy
- "Johnny I got away with domestic abuse Depp"- Santa Clause 3 ep
- "Dark Phoenix will be the last movie ever made"- Dark Phoenix (this one was a stretch but I do legit have 3 friends for which Dark Phoenix was the last movie they saw in the cinema)
Anyone ever realize how Sato and the equalists think that by taking away all bending in the world, that it would make it better for everyone, and yet ironically that’s the world that we live in. A world, that’s arguably not any better, or even worse.
poor Senna and Lucian, even if they somehow find a way to solve the Black Mist problem, the world would still end to either the Void or Aurelion Sol breaking free from his shackles
it’s just so funny how they’re stressing over this issue when us, the readers, are aware of a much larger problem lmao
Dramatic Irony is the only term I could think of, there might be a more accurate one. Anyway, what is the single most valuable piece of information that we as readers of the lore know that the characters in universe are clueless to?
Just a humble opinion here that I wanted to discuss.
S5 is so far, fantastic and I very much enjoyed the beginning so far. Yet, the end of S4 and S5 have chosen to go with dramatic irony to give tension to the events, ie we know things characters do not, and we see action unfold without being possible to do something about it.
This, in my humble opinion, reduces the shock of this season. When I read the book, beginning indicated signs of multiple conspiracies, one on Mars (Bobbie attacked, witnesses killed) and one on Tycho (Monica). And then, suddenly, boom. One rock hits Earth, then a second, and a third, devastating the planet. I was shocked, and this emotion at first made me hate the book for the story it told : that Earth and half of its population would die, and the race of Amos to get out of here was very tense as a result.
I strongly agree that shock for shock ("subvert expectations") is low imagination. But it is not the case in NG as it is well integrated and logical with the story, and is the apex of the shadowy plots we see unfold in the first chapters. Here, the shock is reduced, because of dramatic irony. The only unknown is how much damage the rocks will cause, however the fact that rocks have been thrown at Earth is not an unknown since we know it from last season.
I think that Inaros plan should have been kept hidden until Ep3. S4 then would have finished on Ashford's death, with the viewers only having his last message and conversation with Marco to try to understand what is going on. S5 then opens on the same scene above Venus, but without the opening shot of the asteroid around the sun, only the information from the science ship that there are debris and that they are unusual. Rest of the early episodes unfold, until the discussion on Luna between the admiral, Avarasala and the scientist which happens right before the end, where she demands to reposition the watchtowers, alas too late. The conclusion comes right after with a scene with Marco smiling as his holographic diagram indicates that the first impact is imminent (with or without showing the other rocks), with a transition to the rock (reverse compared to end of Ep1) and the death of the fisherman.
What do you think ? (Again, I still love the season and everyone did a fantastic job on it despite the point I underlined here ;) )
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This week's theme is Dramatic Irony. Consider writing a story that makes use of something that readers know but a character does not. The character should do something against their own interest that if they just knew that information, which can be told to us directly or only implied, would avoid.
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"I have been lucky that I have never had a sort of stake through the heart kind of error or mistake in one of the videos, where someone leaves a comment and I just realize 'oh they just killed my video dead' " found at around 54:20
I'm I life-long Star Wars fan that just finished the Clone Wars show. The episodes that the younglings had to overcome each of their fears on Ilum hit me especially hard. Celebrating each of their successes knowing that they'll inevitably be slaughtered was particularly difficult. RIP Gungi...Your people will always be proud of you.
I love the subtle nudges to the right answer we get in the books. Off the top of my head I can only think of these, but there's definitely more. The main one is obviously in the first book HPatPS - where harry looks at the top table, straight after being sorted, and sees snape, then clutches his scar. But in the book it's summit along the lines of 'Snape looked past quirrells turban, and straight into harry's eyes'. it's the complexity of the story lines, the fact that that's a deliberate fact out, because harry's now looking at voldemort, not snape, but snapes still significant, because he's seeing lily's eyes for the first time since she died. But what I mean is it's a little hint for those reading it back and you notice.. ah, it was quirrell he saw, like when he doesnt go into the back classroom, because he just lost 150 points an wants to keep his record clean for a bit, but he 'bet everything he had that snape and quirrell were in there' cos he could hear quirrell whimpering, but it was, it was just voldemort bullying quirrell. And the other example is when they use the extendable ears to listen to Draco's convo with Borgin, and afterwards Harry says 'did you see what he was talking about' to which ron replies 'no i couldn't see anything, he was stood behind that big cabinet' which to a first time reader is like ok dont care, but a really nice hint to the old fans. I always like those things that show that the whole thing is properly written and planned, like that fact quirrell can shake harry's hand in the leaky cauldron (books) because he's about to rob gringotts, and when he fails voldemort then possesses him 'my master thought I couldn't be trusted on my own'. It's just the small parts that make the whole story line complete, that's why harry potters such a loved thing i think, cos it's an almost perfect new life with almost every detail written in.
My opinion: Dramatic Irony occurs when the audience (of a movie, play, etc.) understands something about a character's actions, such as a girl running into a closet to hide from a serial killer, but she doesn’t know (however the audience does) that the killer is in the closet too.
Theirs: dramatic irony is when you something happens where they’re opposite. I.e we both posted opinions on the same topic that relate to each other but are opposite.
I've been reading Cain's Last Stand and came across this funny tidbit:
>'We know from some of the fragments recovered at other sites across the galaxy that the Ancients were at war. Who or what with we have no idea, although some scholars have speculated that the character most frequently associated with the enemy can be transliterated into Gothic as Katarn or C'tan.' 'Never heard of them,' I said, with some relief: at least it wasn't the damned necrons.
Poor Cain. But that got me wondering: how often do the Black Library authors employ this kind of dramatic irony in the books, and what are some good examples of this?
Exactly what the title says:
"How are the golden statues of Romeo and Juliet an example of dramatic irony?"
That's one of the things that makes the show so interesting to watch. While the viewers of the show get to see every single viewpoint and aspect of the story, the characters do not. So it's interesting to watch how the characters react to things when we know things they don't
Let's take Elena's comment about baby May Ling for example ("If you can't handle being a mother don't get pregnant"). It's easy to get mad at her for that comment because to be honest, that's a very judgemental thing to say. But I'll be honest, if I saw a frost-bitten infant by herself in the middle of a snowstorm, without any knowledge of why she was there or what happened to the birth mother, I would think something similar.
If you're wondering which of the stories Maget told was true, stop reading.
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So I've got a party working their way through the jungle, trapped miles from anywhere, and they've got some NPCs they rescued with them. It's very early in the game, so I've been using night-time watches to let characters pair up and get a scene together, and using the NPCs in those scenes to do some on-screen world-building.
But one of those NPCs has only one person in mind: herself.
Maget's been stealing from the party while they sleep, while she's on watch, something very campaign-specific that I've not been removing from their characters' inventories but have been leaving GM Notes on. I've rolled Stealth and Sleight Of Hand checks for every single one in Roll20 and have screenshots to prove it. And she was doing far too well, and the time is coming for her to spread her wings and set off on her own, so I figured I had to give her a moment in the limelight before she became an early-game villain to be hunted down.
I remembered a fantastic device for showing the audience that a character is enthusiastically lying, while keeping the characters in the dark. "D'you wanna know how I got this scar?"
On three different nights, she told three different stories:
- to the Paladin focused on duty and authority, she told how authority had led her tribe into conflict they couldn't win,
- to the Barbarian whose family rejected her, she told how her own family had rejected her violently,
- on the third night, the Bard PC sat up with her and, to laughter from the group, asked, "So how did you get that scar?" She Insight-checked him but rolled badly, so she went ahead and made up a harmless story: one about how it was an accident in her youth.
The group listened to the first story dutifully. There was a bit of a snigger when she asked the question for the second time, followed by gasps when they heard a different story, followed by a flurry of speculation in the game Discord channel.
(This is why I told the second story second; telling it first, the story of familial abuse and rejection would have had a much bigger OOC emotional impact, but telling it second, when the players know it's a lie or a trick, really helped to neuter that).
So the players now know she's deceptive (or at the least, is playing games to amuse herself), but the characters, well, those who've heard the stories think she's just got a fairly standard player-character tragic backstory. So whe
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In Chapter 2, Harry asks if letting a bit of security protocol go would kill Etri. His repose: "potentially." Etri later is killed. I wonder if he let some security protocol go before he died.
>a literary technique, originally used in Greek tragedy, by which the full significance of a character's words or actions is clear to the audience or reader although unknown to the character.
Which instance of dramatic irony comes to mind when you think about the series?
I'm reading ACOK and there's a bit in Bran IV I either forgot or didn't catch the last time around.
The Reeds and Bran talk about his warging capabilities, Bran doesn't want to believe in magic while Jojen insists that Bran is a greenseer. Before they leave he tells Bran about one of his prophetic dreams. You'll have to forgive me since my copy is in spanish and I can't find a transcript but here goes:
>You were sitting at the table for supper, but the one serving you wasn't a servant, it was maester Luwin. He gave you the king's cut, rare and bleeding which smelled so exquisite that everyone's mouth was watering. The meat that he served the Freys was dry, old, grey and dead. But they liked their dinner more than you did yours.
That night everyone gets served the same pigeon pie and Bran dismisses the whole thing. He thinks about how the absence of magic is both a relief and really sad, because he thinks about all the great things he could do with it like walk and fly.
He concludes that there is no magic and he would never walk or fly or become a knight.
In case some of you aren't getting the point from my summary: Bran wants to be a knight, something the two Freys will most certainly be some day and doesn't realise his potential. The juicy cut of meat is magic and the grey disgusting meat is being an able bodied knight.
I'm surprised I forgot about this whole thing because it's brilliant.
Anyone else got an example?
I am new to this sub. I just found it, and found much of it (as well as the related memes sub) quite relatable. I found myself nodding along to a lot of the resources here than I am happy to admit. I followed a link to Body Keeps the Score, which had a related product about a CPTSD workbook. I noticed it lets you preview some pages and I started reading them, mentally answering and relating to much of what it talked about.
And in walks my dad, upset about how long I take to clean the kitchen and how I do it, and about a multitude of other tangentially related or unrelated things, and ending with his usual bullshit about how he was completely independent by age 10 (which is bullshit, since boarding school is not independence) so I have no excuse to forget anything, ever.
At least I don't have to spend a lot of time trying to figure out whether I'm someone who belongs in this subreddit.
So, um, hi?
