TIL Twitter did an April Fool's prank by announcing it was changing to a two-tiered service. The free version "Twttr" would not support vowels and only allow tweets with consonants, while "Twitter" would become a $5 per month service that supports any letters. firstpost.com/tech/news-a…
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i gave all of the forbidden phonemes symbols (all typable) rate my consonant inventory
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I love thrift store art! Framed oil? painting by an artist with many consonants in his or her name. $13 reddit.com/gallery/ig3cpc
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A speakable and writable code I made called Kotzelfoa, that builds a unique consonant-vowel syllable for every pair of English letters docs.google.com/document/…
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This very engagingly-voiced man discussing the languages of east South Africa, which incorporate clicks into the pronunciations their consonants. youtu.be/WHHGOYu6Fl0
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Does the first letter of your forename begin with a vowel or consonant?
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A conscript I'm developing for my worldbuilding projects. It's an abugida called Te Soto. Vowels follow the consonant phonetically. The words below have no meaning yet, and are just there to demonstrate how compound vowels are written. Constructive criticism is welcome.
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How about a system where you write the vowels with the consonant as the diacritic mark?
     p     t     k    s    m    n    l     j

a ã å ā à á â ä æ
etc.

“mi pana e ni.” becomes í ãâ e î.

“mi luken e nasin pona.” becomes í üē^ e âì^ õâ.

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I feel like the majority of major key Classical music is too functional/consonant

Really I'm talking about Classical period and maybe Baroque

I open up a random concerto by Haydn or Mozart and I feel like I'm usually hit in the face with

I I IV IV V V V7 V7 I

in a really dramatic way.

And then usually a transition to the V key or maybe something minor.

Is this your experience or do I just have some sort of selection bias going on?

I feel like the most beautiful works by these composers is their more soulful, slightly more dissonant pieces, or the ones in a minor key. And yet it seems like the majority isn't like that.

I wonder if it's a taste thing? I come from a blues and rock background so I want something a bit more colorful?

For example, today I randomly opened up Haydn's Cello Concerto No. 1 and listened to the first movement. The melody is somewhat interesting but the overall sound just doesn't do it for me. It seems bright and bland. Maybe he's doing something complex and technical underneath it and I'm not hearing it?

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Is there any to know if و is pronounced as a vowel or consonant when encountering a new word?

Sometimes when a word has alef before or after و it’s usually pronounced “v” like اول or آواز but not always, other times it’s a long “u” like خوب just wondering if there’s any rhyme or reason to reading this ambiguous letter.

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A reading in 17th-century Vietnamese pronunciation (There's some consonants no longer found in Vietnamese nowadays) youtube.com/watch?v=zOKrN…
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A conscript I'm developing for my worldbuilding project (working title is Deima). It's an abugida called Te Soto. Vowels follow the consonant phonetically. The words below have no meaning yet, and are just there to demonstrate how compound vowels are written. Constructive criticism is welcome.
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Today I learned that ‘The Rule is Not "A" Before Consonants and "An" Before Vowels’, the rule is actually based around the sound of the word. For example: He has a unique point of view on the subject and talked about it for an hour. writersdigest.com/.amp/wr…
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ISO Name: Vintage/Classic, Feminine, 3 Syllables, Ends in Consonant Sound

Hi Nerds! Looking for a girl name that meets the following criteria:

  1. Feminine 2. Fits into the Vintage/Classic names category 3. Has 3 syllables 4. Ends in a consonant sound (doesn’t have end in an actual consonant, just the sound)

All I can think of are the following: Violet, Winnifred, Josephine, Annabelle

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English but every consonant is moved one (1) place of articulation back*

For an example text, WAP by Cardi B (Ben Shapiro mix)

ʋʁ̞ojeʃ iɳ ziʃ ouʃe

zeje'ʃ ʃoɱe ʋʁ̞ojeʃ iɳ ziʃ ouʃe (3x)

I ʃaiɖ: ʃejʈiθieɖ θjeaq

ʃeðeɳ ɖayʃ a ʋʁ̞eeq

ʋʁ̞eʈ aʃ p̪-ʋʁ̞ojɖ

ɱaqe zaʈ p̪ull ouʈ ɢaɱe ʋʁ̞eaq

zeje'ʃ ʃoɱe ʋʁ̞ojeʃ iɳ ziʃ ouʃe (4x)

É°ea (5x)

ɰou eθiɳ ʋʁ̞is ʃoɱe ʋʁ̞eʈ aʃ p̪-ʋʁ̞ojɖ

b̪jiɴ a b̪uqeʈ aɳɖ a ɱop̪

θoj ziʃ ʋʁ̞eʈ aʃ p̪-ʋʁ̞ojɖ

ɢiðe ɱe eðejysiɴ ɰou’ðe ɢoʈ

θoj ziʃ ʋʁ̞eʈ aʃ p̪-ʋʁ̞ojɖ

b̪eaʈ iʈ up̪ ɳ-ʋʁ̞ojɖ

qaʈʂ a ʈʂajɖʐe

Eqʃʈʂja ɭajɖʐe aɳɖ eqʃʈʂja ajɖ

p̪uʈ ziʃ p̪-ʋʁ̞ojɖ jiʈ iɳ ɰouj θaʃe

ʃʋʁ̞ip̪e ɰouj ɳoʃe ɭiqe a qjeɖiʈ qajɖ

op̪ oɳ ʈop̪

I ʋʁ̞aɳa jiɖe

I ɖo a qeɢel ʋʁ̞ile iʈ’ʃ iɳʃiɖe

ʃp̪iʈ iɳ ɱy ɱous, ɭooq iɳ ɱy eyeʃ

ziʃ p̪-ʋʁ̞ojɖ iʃ ʋʁ̞eʈ, qoɱe ʈaqe a ɖiðe

* Linguolabials were ignored because they're dumb and I hate them. /h/ was removed as it is not possible to go further back. Vowels were not transcribed in the IPA. Silent cosonants removed.

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Do long consonants occur at the beginning of syllables in any natural language?

Can they? I haven't found anything on the World Wide Web about this. Maybe the idea is so absurd that no one writes about it?

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If a perfect fourth is dissonant in consonant settings, then why does doubling the root above a major chord reinforce the chord; rather than introduce instability?

I'm under the presumption that the perfect octave is a stronger consonance than the perfect fourth dissonance; and thus introduces more "stability" than "instability". I also feel its because its the "root" being doubled.

In case what I'm saying doesn't make sense; Twentieth Century Harmony suggests that a perfect fourth is dissonant in consonant settings.

But if you add a perfect fourth to C E G, you get C: the octave. This chord is anything but dissonant; it's just a major chord with a doubled root. If I invert the chord and play G C E; you definitely hear that "fourthy" sound and that doesn't get dispelled if I double the C again.

I don't think I'm smart enough to get the answer on my own; so any explanations would be greatly appreciated!

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TIL "Y" is only considered a vowel sometimes in English. It can also be a consonant. Are there letters in your language that are consonant or vowel in your language but something else in another?

And what is the given difference between consonants and vowels in your language? Because in Danish the difference is that vowels have the same name as the sound they make, while consonants do not. I realise now that that is not the case in English, and i'm guessing other languages as well.

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Why do the majority of IALs use consonant clusters?

Sorry, poor English.

Japanese are very poor at pronunciation of words including consonant clusters.

If you can't pronounce well, the Japanese will hesitate to speak and will not function as an IAL. It's the same as English.

Is consonant cluster absolutely necessary for IAL?

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If the letter “c” in English was assigned solely to represent “ch”, it wouldn’t be missed, because its duties as a consonant are redundant and can be covered by “k” and “s”.
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I decided to make althomestuck^2 so that elsee can be the second consonant cluster in each name replaces the third party.

Together, over time, I’m talking about John during the epilogues onward is the dirk body to be believed then technically only Meat is for 2ollux

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Reverse abugida for Samoan. Consonants are written as diacritics attached to the vowel.
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Why did Zarlino and Martini consider P4 a consonant, when Palestrina, Fux, Mozart, &c didn't?

I'm sorry for this obscure and rather useless question, but I've been searching around for explanations why is Perfect 4th considered a dissonance, but lack good explanations why some don't/didn't consider it a dissonance.

Three things that popped up in my head were:

  1. Zarlino used his own temperament. However, P4 and P5 are set to the usual 4/3 and 3/2, so this shouldn't differ from Mozart & his peers, right?
  2. Different instruments could have different feel about them, and thus P4 would create less tension if the instrument had a lot of partials in between root and P4... I think?
  3. Uhh,... cultural understanding of music? Honestly this now seems the most likely - Zarlino grew up hearing music when things ended with P4 and sounded just fine to him. But that seems like a lazy conclusion.
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About allowing consonants in the nucleus

So, I would like to imagine what would (northern) French look like in the future. And I want a total deletion of the schwa.

But here comes the problem of having tons of consonants ligning up.

So I decided to allow liquids, nasals and fricatives in the nucleus if it is not surrounded by more so that that is pronounced:

J'ai décidé de ce que je me referait /ʒe.de.si.de.ts.kʃ.m.ʁ.fʁe/

que ce que je faisait se fasse démolir /ks.kʃ.fse.sfas.de.mo.liʁ/

je te redemanderais pas ce que je sais plus /ʃ.tʁ.dmɑ̃dʁe.s.kʃe.ply/

Do you find it naturalistic? Or do I have to only delete the schwa when it makes more than two consonants meet?

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Do you have to say tensed consonants more loudly?

For a lot of us English speakers, the tense consonants like ㄱ vs ㄲ, ㄷ vs ㄸ are hard to distinguish. I think in order for me to say them clearly, I always end up saying that syllable louder. Like this sentence:

요즘 꽃이 비쌀까요?

I have to say it like:

yojum GOchi beSAlGAyo?

Is there a better way to say them, without saying those syllables louder or with more emphasis, but somehow still making it clear what letter you're saying? Or is it just natural to make them louder? What if I want to emphasize a different part of that sentence?

That's maybe not the best example sentence, since in that context it's clear what words those are supposed to be. But you can imagine some others where either ㄱ or ㄲ would make sense, and you just have to hear it.

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Is there a website that contains the percentage distribution spread of all consonants (and vowels)?

Is there a place I can find the most to least common consonants and vowels OF ALL HUMAN LANGUAGES NOT JUST ENGLISH as a percentage, for example: k (80%) p (70%) ... ð (4%) ɮ (1%)

And something similar for vowels: a (80%) e (70%) ... ɤ (5%) ɶ (2%)

Thanks!

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A large set of notes where each note, in any combo, sounds consonant?

TL;DR I am looking for a set of notes that is larger than a scale and where each note, in any combo, would sound consonant/harmonious. Any ideas on what this could be or how/why does it work are welcome! Backstory below

I remember as a kid visiting the Copernicus Science Centre in Warsaw, Poland.

There was a music playground (like this, but physical). I remember being impressed because no matter what notes I picked (even if I played every note at the same time) it sounded harmonious! The range of notes available was huge, at least 4 octaves, and I remember there were all sorts of intervals between them - even 2nds and 7nths.

Now I'm trying to figure out what was going on there, but unfortunately, I can't find any resources on their webpage (the exhibition might be no longer there) and I can't visit Warsaw.

What's this large set of notes called? Any ideas on what this could be or how/why does it work are welcome!

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Long Syllabic Consonants Question

The Slovak language features the letters Ĺ ĺ [l̩ː] and Ŕ ŕ [r̩ː]. They are long and syllabic versions of the letters L l [l] and R r [r] (audio pronunciations can be found here).

Do any other languages include long, syllabic consonants? Can other consonants also be syllabic and long? Or is this a distinct feature only possible with the letters l and r?

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Vowels and Consonants

Vowels:

  • /a/
  • /e/
  • /ɛ/
  • /o/
  • /u/
  • /ʊ/
  • /y/
  • /j/
  • /ɪ/
  • /ə/
  • /i/
  • /eo/
  • /ɛɪ/
  • /ɛi/
  • /oi/
  • /oɪ/
  • /ɔ/
  • /ʌ/
  • /ɯ/
  • /e̞/
  • /ɛ̞/
  • /ɛ̞ʊ/
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Close! Just add a few more consonants and a vowel
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In Cantonese, why is it only the velar nasal initial that merges with zero consonant initial but other nasals or velars don't?

Like, ngo 我 and nga 牙 has recently (last 30 - 40 years) been merged with just o and a by increasingly more younger Cantonese speakers, but other nasals, like mo 魔, ma 媽, no 拿 and na 那, or other velars such as k'a 卡, ko 個 and ka 家 never does that. And also, the velar nasal (ng) syllabic consonant merges with the bilabial nasal (m) syllabic consonant by younger speakers too (ng 五, 伍, 吴, or 蜈 all becomes pronounced like m).

Is there like a reason why specifically only the velar nasal (ng) initial or syllabic consonant gets supressed like that by younger speakers? What are the reasons why velar nasals without vocals before it grows increasingly unpopular amongst younger Cantonese people?

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I've had 1 consonant and 6 vowels for the past 3 rounds. Now this. Anyone else experience really bad luck?
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More Consonants, Less Vowels? (Consonant-Vowel Ratio in Your Conlangs)

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I've learnt a lot in a previous post/question about the frequency of pharyngeal consonants used in conlangs. It was an intriguing discussion, and now it's got me asking more questions. I've come to notice that languages with pharyngeal consonants (at least based off my observation diving through Wikipedia) have very large consonant inventories.

Speaking of consonant inventories, WALS Online Chapter 3A on 'Consonant-Vowel Ratio' states:

"The fact which produce this result have probably led to the suggestion that it is a typical pattern for large consonant inventories to be counterbalanced by smaller vowel systems across the [world languages]."

There are of course many exceptions like Hawaiian having both small consonant and vowel inventories, while !Xóõ (Southern Africa) possesses 100+ of consonants and 30+ vowels.

(Question)

So here is my question: do you find yourself giving your conlang a smaller vowel inventory as you add more consonants (and vice

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If you come to think of it, minimum steps to create a new language is map every possible vowel and consonant of that language to a different one from same language.
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what do you think of my consonant inventory? yes i can pronounce all of them
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double consonants question

I’m looking for clarification regarding double consonants in Dutch and how their presence affects pronunciation. for example, a friend of mine from Rotterdam tells me that in a compound word like trekkoord or koppijn, he would stop on the consonants, similar to Italian double consonants, in order to pronounce both words. so, i’m curious if this is true from other native Dutch speakers’ perspectives. Does this happen in verbs as well? Like in trekken? I’m confused because I’ve read that the only function of double consonants is to indicate the shortening of the preceding vowel and the consonants themselves should not be doubled...would love some additional opinions/perspectives. thanks!!

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Take a look at what an MRI captured after monitoring real-time movements in the mouth and throat when speaking. Visible in this clip are the spatial-temporal coordination of lips, tongue, soft palate, and larynx, which is necessary to form vowels, consonants, and coarticulations. v.redd.it/lraltnwzb4451
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Is there a difference between Pharyngeal and Epiglottal consonants? The IPA seems to group them together.

Although it seems like epiglottal stop and epiglottal trills (/ʡ/, /ʜ/, /ʢ/) are not on the IPA table itself, but are mentioned separately under “Other Symbols”. Even more interestingly, the IPA calls /ʜ/ and /ʢ/ “epiglottal fricatives”.

And for what it’s worth, the Wikipedia page for Epiglottal consonant redirects you to the Pharyngeal consonant page.

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INITIAL CONSONANT DELETION??

Hi,

I'm an SLP for ages 5-22 in a public school district. I have never worked in early intervention.

My son is 13 months old and he says at least 15 words, which is great. However, I am super concerned about his sound development. He passed his hearing screen at birth and I will be asking for another one at his next appt but I dont see any signs of a hearing loss, and he has no history of OM.

MY CONCERN - he deletes initial consonants most of the time:

"ilk" = milk "Ah-ta" = water "ips" = Gypsy, our dog. "Uck" = yuck

He has very few words for which he uses consonants: more, go, and occasionally Mama though he really doesn't call me very often. Maybe because we are together 24/7 (thanks COVID).

He sometimes adds a vowel to the beginning of words to get momentum.. sometimes "go" becomes "I go" or ah-go.

His best and clearest words all begin with vowels: auntie, uncle, egg, up, off, uh oh, apple, all done.

Everyone is telling me that I'm crazy because he talks so much and he is

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Is there a different "th" sound? I hear the beginning of "thigh" and "thy" as different consonants/
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Just how many Conjunct Consonants are There?

I'm specifically talking about the Devanagari script as used in Hindi. Conjuncts like प्ल are reasonably obvious, but ones like क्ष are less so. I've never seen a list of these consonants - what exactly are the rules here and how many are irregular? Thank you

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How Often Do You Use Pharyngeal Consonants in Your Conlang(s)?

In my language Kalavi, the pharyngeal consonants of ʕ and ħ are used. Kalavi is a language spoken by dragons (in my universe) and I would like to believe they would use their 'throats' more often as phonemic material.

That being said, I am just curious as to how common is it amongst languages in the conlanging community. Do your phonological inventories have pharyngeal consonants? Does pharyngealisation only occur as secondary articulation? Are they semivowels? Do they evolve into other sounds as time goes on? What circumstances led to pharyngeal consonants becoming part of your inventory?

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[OC] Male names in the United States tend to have more consonants per syllables pbs.twimg.com/media/ESeFw…
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i need help choosing a consonant

My language only has one, so I have to make it the most beautiful consonant

which consonant is the most amazing, gorgeous, and spectacular

i'll go with the most upvoted by tomorrow, or i'll make a poll between like two or three of the highest depending on how close it is

edit

everyone seems to rightly think that ŋ is the most amazing, gorgeous, and spectacular consonant so ŋ it is

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Hot cross :consonants : youtu.be/zCmGcYjJo1c
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vowels have more options for pronunciation than consonants
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There are more consonants than vowels in 'vowel'
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Does your name start with a consonant (Heather, Mohammed etc.) or vowel (Oliver, Alice etc.)?
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Most reliable way to learn to learn Thai vowels (and consonants)?

Hi,

I've been having a difficult time trying to learn all the Thai vowels. Maybe I'm over thinking maybe I'm not, so bare with me!

The Sources I've been studying for vowels:

I've noticed that there's slight differences between the vowels between sources such as เ– ียะ being ia in one

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Discovery: The difference between tense and lax consonants like ㄷ and ㄸ apparently comes down the front of your tongue.

I was reading through the Korean phonology wiki and noticed that it wasn't noted how /t, d/ were realized (alongside any of the other coronal consonants), so I googled it.

That lead me to finding a sample of this book, with the following excerpt highlighted:

>Given the MRI data, Kim, Honda & Maeda (2002) have suggested that the two independent systematic patterns - (a) the concomitant tongue and larynx movements and (b) glottal opening - should be the control parameters characterizing the three-way phonation contrast in Korean consonants. That is, the apical contact of the lenis (lax) con

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French vs. English Consonants

To avoid misuse of terminology, I'm not going to use any here, so I apologise for the generality. From my best understanding, this post concerns only consonants that are 'stops' but I couldn't be absolutely sure.

I read from a reliable source that consonants were pronounced more to the front of the mouth in French than in English (apart from the r).

There is near no resources that I can find on the differences with similar consonants among different languages and the 'p', 'k', 't', 'd', etc. are all written using the same IPA symbol as in English.

If there truly is a difference in pronunciation, what was this writer talking about? On a related note, is there a difference to a native listener?

Many Thanks!

Edit: [Source](https://www.lawlessfrench.com/pronunciation/consonants) Marked under "French vs English Consonants" right at the top.

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Using Custom Spelling Rules with Consonant Groups

I was having a stab at creating rules for Scottish Gaelic, and am running into issues with consonant groups and spelling rules. Maybe I'm using things incorrectly, I don't know.

I have 3 groups: all consonants (C, VulgarLang's default group), slender consonants (X), and broad consonants (Y). I used X and Y because they didn't seem to have any predefined groups. The groups are:

  • C = ç f fj h hj j ʝ k kÊ° kʲ kʲʰ l l̪ l̪ˠ m mj n n̪ˠ ɲ p pj pÊ° pÊ°j rË  ɾ ɾʲ s̪ tʲ tʲʰ t̪ t̪ʰ v vj É£ x ʎ ʃ
  • X = ç fj hj ʝ kʲ kʲʰ l̪ mj n ɲ pj pÊ°j rË  ɾ tʲ tʲʰ vj ʎ ʃ
  • Y = f h k kÊ° l̪ˠ m n n̪ˠ p pÊ° rË  ɾ s̪ t̪ t̪ʰ v É£ x

Then I wanted to create some spelling rules which depend on the consonant groups that vowel/diphthongs fall between. Here are some examples (forgive the unoptimized regex):

  • YaːX > YàiX
  • [(kʲ)(tʲ)]aY > $&eaY
  • X[eɛ]Y > XeaY
  • [(kʲ)(tʲ)]aːY > $&eàY
  • X[(ɛː)(ia)]Y > XèaY
  • X[eɛ]X > XeiX
  • XɛːX > XèiX
  • XeːX > XéiX

The output fails to use the consonant g

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Consonants are now banned

Fuck language.

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Anyone have tips for a beginner on how aspirated consonants sound versus tensioned? I am struggling to tell the difference
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Uvular consonants appreciation illustration my friend made
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What happens with instrumental or translative cases when the word already ends in a double consonant?

I mean, let's take the example of instrumental, when a word ends in a consonant, the "v" of "-val/-vel" is replaced by the last consonant of the word, e.g. dolog -> dologgal instead of dologval. But what happens when the word already ends in a double consonant (e.g. vicc or cucc)? Can you say "vicccal" or "cuccal"? (Sounds absolutely weird though) Or is there another way?

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Is there even a single noun ending in a consonant?

Probably for some cases, I mean e.g. -ssa/-ssä wouldn't fit well with a consonant ending but still, that's really mindblowing

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googleproof? most legit different spellings of a vowel-consonant sound -- e.g. "oose" as in goose. I have an 8.
  • euce (deuce)

  • oose (goose, etc)

  • uice (juice)

  • eusse (masseuse)

  • ousse (mousse)

  • uce (spruce, etc)

  • use (use, as in make use of)

  • eus (Zeus)

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French and its silent consonants
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Take a look at what an MRI captured after monitoring real-time movements in the mouth and throat when speaking. Visible in this clip are the spatial-temporal coordination of lips, tongue, soft palate, and larynx, which is necessary to form vowels, consonants, and coarticulations. v.redd.it/lraltnwzb4451
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Proposed Consonant/Vowel Chart for Stolze-Schrey -- Comments Desired!

Stolze-Schrey Alphabet

This is the chart I have thus far created for my upcoming Stolze-Schrey summary. It will be slightly reformatted to add title, headings, etc. so no need to comment on that aspect.

But I would like some opinions and comments regarding:

  1. Legibility of strokes
  2. Use of IPA symbols for vowels (the vowel symbols used by Hug/Riethmann are not very helpful for native English speakers, IMO)
  3. Are example words for vowels general enough to understand what the IPA symbols/vowels represent?
  4. Any ideas for improvements/additions for presentation?

This will eventually become a part of a document posted to archive.org thus my desire for it to be as clearly read and understood as possible. I know that many here have a better understanding of linguistics, etc., so your thoughts are very valuable to me.

Thank yo

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[TOMT] Grammar rule that has to do with vowels and consonants

Saw a comment about something else on Reddit where someone asked when to use the pronounced like thee vs the pronounced the regular way. It reminded me of another grammar rule that has something to do with if the following word begins with a consonant or a vowel, but I can’t think of it.

Hope that makes sense!

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[Repost] Daurjin Neo vowels and consonants
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The slysz swayback is one of the sexiest knives in the world... hence why it picked up a beer that defies the same diabolical destruction of the relationship between consonants and syllables. (My title lacked, however I have found a way to resurrect my fallen post)... spyderco swayback.
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The process I did: wrote down my intention, picked a representing word and drew a sigil out of consonants of the word, spat and put blood on it, prayed to angel Gabriel (only later I found out this is the actual symbol), burned the sigil, generated coordinates. I found a sign that read "I'm okay".
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French and its silent consonants
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Why is that sound almost always happening when I say certain consonants? What is it? And how to get rid of it or stop putting attention to it?

For context, I'm 19, and since I was 14-15 I felt something weird when I was speaking, and didn't know what it was. Some weeks ago I started learning German (and because of that, putting attention to my pronunciation) and I noticed that when I say certain consonants (k, g, h, d, t), I was making a click sound. It doesn't hurt, just gets annoying because it sounds kinda loud close to my ear. It's driving me crazy because I just can't stop noticing it, and I don't know if others notice it too.
Also for more information, sometimes my jaw gets blocked for 2 seconds and closes abruptly when I jawn (once or twice a day)
Here is a link to the sound, I'm saying "k" for the first seconds, then "t".
https://voca.ro/d5uwHQBKHUU

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Kotzelfoa, a language I made that builds a unique consonant-vowel syllable for every pair of English letters docs.google.com/document/…
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Portuguese v. Spanish consonant sounds

Hello everyone, I thought you all might enjoy this video, which discusses the evolution of medieval Portuguese and Spanish consonant sounds into their modern versions.

Portuguese v. Spanish

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Ever wonder what those batty Kidaka are scribbling on their mushroom paper? Here is a guide to their syllabary alphabet! Note the squeak consonant (!) [Donut World] imgur.com/rDg6OsW
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A list of PIE-PU comparisons I found rifling through various sources, with consonant correspondances

Correspondences

PIE words from Mallory and Adams 2006

PIE PU
PIE PU
m m
n n
CÊ° C
p, b p
d t, δ
k č /#_
kÊ·, gÊ· k /#_
ḱ, ǵ ć /#_
s Ø / Root final
r, l r
lh₁ l
n ŋ / before velars
Syllabic R e
w w
y j
H Ø /#_
H ɣ /V_V
h₂ a / syllabic
Ø V / root final
e V / root nucleus
IE U
*h₃neh₃-mn̥ "name" *nime "name" [Aikio]
*wédn̥ "loc. water" *wete "water"[Aikio]
*mei- "to exchange" *miɣe- "to give, sell" [Aikio]
*mesg- "to wash" *muśke- "to wash" [Aikio]
*deh₃- "to give, take" *toɣe- "to bring, fetch, give" [Aikio]
*h₂epér- "behind" *perä "behind" [Aikio]
*ḱh₂d- "to fall" *ćaδa- "to fall, rain" [Aikio]
*h₂éndʰes- "flower" *anti~onta "root/branch/sprout" [Aikio]
*h₂eǵ- "to drive" *aja- "to drive/chase" [Aikio]
*Hérdʰo- "side" *ert(t)ä "side, rib" [Aikio]
*ǵʰew(h₁)- "voice" *ćuwi "throat/mouth" [Aikio]
*wedÊ°- "to lead" *weta- "to pull" [Kortlandt]
*gʷelh₁- "to die" *kola- "to die" [Forni 2017]

*bÊ°e

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I can't hear voiced consonants

My first language (Cantonese) doesn't have them. It has strong distinctions between aspiration and non-aspiration. When we learnt English, teachers told us to differentiate English B/P, D/T by buff of air, which is aspiration. This method is not totally wrong because English P T are also quite strongly aspirated. I ended up not knowing the voiced aspect of B D until like 20 years later.

Then I learnt French and Spanish. Aspiration in them is a lot less than in English. I have hard time understanding, and also be understood because I don't sound voiced. Eg I said 'Bordeaux' with the consonants B and D unvoiced. The one I spoke to said 'where?' at first. If I need to say 'gateau cadeaux' things will be tricky too, though I don't have this personal experience.

Now I know what voiced consonants are. I can tell when listening to individual syllable while anticipating them. But in a speech it is hopeless.

I am self learning Japanese now. Aspiration in Japanese seems to be e

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Why are vowels changed by different accents but consonants stay the same?
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How come Mandarin has no consonant endings except n and ng while many other Chinese languages do?
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The number of consonants in the word "vowel" is equal to the number of vowels in the word "consonant"
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