I live in the Southern US and they're fucking everywhere. I can hardly drive more than a few miles in any direction without passing at least one. And in most cases, they exist in the same areas with shitty roads, low-income neighborhoods, and families living in poverty. It's such a fucking waste. When I look at them, all I see is money that could do actual, tangible good in the community if it wasn't sucked up by these useless, gaudy fucking eyesores. All I see are the modern-day temples of greed and self-indulgence that Jesus supposedly condemned. I fucking hate looking at them.
Anyway, just felt the need to vent about it to some people with actual sense.
UPDATE : https://www.reddit.com/user/chillvibes72/comments/mvetn7/update_aita_for_refusing_to_attend_church_with_my/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
I(23F) live with Grace(23F) Tom(25M) and Harry(24M)
The 4 of us decided to go on a 4-day trip over the Easter period, to a town 1hr away that we had wanted to visit for a while. None of us had travelled for the last year and we wanted a change of scenery and all complied with our local COVID rules.
We booked an Airbnb and planned some activities; museums, cool parks, local hotspots. We also made it clear that we were each going to be going off on our own to explore if we wanted, and everyone seemed to agree.
The issue was on Easter Sunday. We decided to all go for a walk, ended up at a church, and then Grace told us to go inside. I asked to speak to her alone so we sat on a bench nearby.
I was in a catholic school when I was younger and had a lot of trauma from it, there were some really horrible barbaric punishments that I cant list here.
Grace is religious and I absolutely respect that for her and I see how it enriches her life. When we moved in I explained my experiences to her, and told her that she could have religious items around, host religious events, but that I didnt want to actively participate in any activity or prayer. She agreed and weve never had a problem with it.
While we were on the bench, I reminded her of this conversation, as there were signs that there was an Easter mass happening inside, that I felt uncomfortable going in. I told her that she+the guys were absolutely free to attend, and that I was more than happy to go and get an ice cream and that we could meet up afterwards for lunch.
She reacted badly, started yelling that I was a hypocrite because 2 years ago I visited La Sagrada Familia and went inside and that I should just suck it up and do the same today because Im ruining our trip.
I tried to explain that I can still admire the architecture of a church without wanting to participate, and that when I visited Sagrada I chose a tour slot that wasnt during any service and it was just 300 tourists inside, and that it felt more like visiting a landmark.
She kept shouting and the guys came over and sided with me which made her more upset. Grace went into the church and Harry told me that while he agreed with me, religion is a touchy thing to argue about and I probably shouldve backed down. He followed Grace, while Tom came with me to get ice cream.
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I’ve always thought negatively of religion so I am biased but holy shit it was insane. I went to help my girlfriends grandmother, and was honestly excited to see what kind of bullshit was gonna happen but I did not expect this. First off, a woman beautifully was singing hallelujah on the stage, but behind her were two giant screens showing Jesus being nailed to a cross and slaughtered, blood and guts included. So much shit happened but one other thing I’d like to add is the pastor said it’s not enough to be a good person and do the right things, if you don’t devote yourself to god you are going to hell. I honestly feel bad for these people, it genuinely felt like a cult and I was pretty uncomfortable at times
Edit: I’ll add a couple other things too since this got kind of big. I especially like the part where the “LORD” killed everybody’s child and then spread blood over the house. Also a part where 20 or 30 people came and laid on stairs praying, all staying there for at least 5 minutes and not moving an inch. I just could not imagine seeing any of this as normal and it amazes me that SO many people do.
Edit 2: Vaccinated along with majority of the church, plus people wearing masks and socially distanced seating
However, while waiting for her response, I began to wonder what Sierra's own church life looked at in terms of her "allyship" with the LGBTQ+ community. And it was discovered that Sierra attends, or at least attended until recently, a church called North Coast Church. This church is part of the EFCA denomination, or Evangelical Free Church of America.
This is why that's a problem:
Why do I think this is Sierra's church?
I posted here yesterday about how I was going to be meeting up with my fundamentalist pastor about me leaving the church. I was doing this as a courtesy and to humanize the views of atheism to my old pastor. Several people asked for an update after. So here it is.
Overall on my end I felt the lunch accomplished what I needed. I won’t be pursued further by him because he can tell where I stand and that I’m confident in my current views. The end prayer was actually kind of uncomfortable for the first time in my life. Prayed that I would receive the understanding necessary to come back. During the meal I was extremely frank and when he said something I disagreed with I openly contradicted him. He was definitely not expecting me to be well prepared or to have thought through it as much as I had.
Overall I got the satisfaction of being open about my views instead of having to hide them in shame. I was able to voice my concerns about the fundamentalist worldview to him and I think quite effectively. He even admitted that some of the things I brought up were extremely tough to reconcile.
I’m glad I accepted the meeting. Good closure for me with him. Now this will probably become more public in my social circle which is much less fun, but it’s the storm before the calm. In a few months it’ll be old news and I’ll be able to not have to have anxiety about the rumors being spread about me. I look forward to it. My new life has begun and I’m so happy!