So Kritas and Caesura were in love, but their fights manifested in terrible hurricanes...
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Caesura might be one of the best pieces of 40K Fanfic

Readable here this short story is from the point of view of the C’tan, during their shattering. If there was any piece of fan fiction that I could make official, this would be at the top of my list

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It gives the reader an interesting insight into C’tan thoughts, as well as the horror of being shattered.

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Saicere/Caesura

Should Kvothe’s renaming of the sword be unsettling?

Magwyn scolds Kvothe for this: β€œβ€˜Saicere,’she corrected me sharply. β€˜Do not presume to meddle with her name...’”

Later, Elodin acts panicked when kvothe asks what Elodin would think about someone who changes their name (kvothe is talking about Denna’s calling name, but Elodin is thinking about deep names)

Magwyn is a wise namer and warns kvothe against changing the swords name. She also calls it β€œher” personifying the sword.

I’m under the impression that a thing shapes it’s name and it’s name also shapes a thing. (I’m not sure if this is directly stated) but that would mean that kvothes changing of the swords name would change the sword.

The only way that I could think of this backfiring is if, because kvothe changed its name, the sword breaks. This obviously ties in with the name of the sword. Also, Kvothe asks Vashet what he should do if the sword breaks Before he leaves Haert. Possible foreshadowing? And later at the university kvothe is still curious about the durability of the sword and asks Master Kilvin about his thoughts on a β€œmetal that will stand hard use for two thousand years”. Maybe Rothfuss is stressing this point because it has importance later.

Curious if there are any other theories like this one?

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Pet Peeve- on my second audio book re-read of WMF; I think it’s incredibly disrespectful that Kvothe doesn’t make an effort in remembering, let alone re-naming his Adem sword *Saicere*, instead calling it Caesura because he thinks it’s β€œbetter”.

Don’t get me wrong, I find the story intriguing but some of it seems like some illogical fancy, completely unrealistic.

For example, when he goes to the fae world. This fantastical creature thousands of years old seducing men over centuries for her sexual appetite, and this red-headed 16 YO blows her mind with his virginal experience lol I can barely get through those chapters without rolling my eyes heavily lol.

However, as the title above states this young man doesn’t even take note of how disrespectful it is not even attempting to hide a different name to call the sword.

I know he fancy’s himself as a namer but he hasn’t quite mastered naming yet. He’s quite inexperienced, and I believe he does turn out to be one of the most powerful namers in history.

It leaves a sour taste when he’s learning Saicere’s history, and perhaps being a foolish young man he’s completely oblivious to the disrespect. Yet, he’s quite mindful when it comes to something or someone of import, like not scaring Denna off.

I had to get this off my chest and mind as I listen to this while working. I’d cuff him upside the head myself if I was one of the women.

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Can you have a caesura in the middle of a word?

I came across the following line in the Aeneid; "certus iter fluctusque atros Aquilone secabat." I'm scanning it like so: "certus i|ter fluc |tusque_at |tros Aqui |one se | cabat," where the "_" shows the elision. It seems to me like the caesura has to come in the third foot here, between "tus" and "qu_atros," unless I guess you see a feminine caesura in the 4th foot. Can this kind of thing happen?

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Amanda Gorman and Poetry's Sudden Emergence as the Favorite Art Form of the Ruling Class-Article in Caesura caesuramag.org/posts/emil…
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Caesura vs Kay-sera

I've seen lots of theories and speculation about the different swords Kvothe is rumored to have, most of which I agree with: such as Folly being Cinder's sword. However, there's been some theories around Kay-sera, the poet killer, that I don't agree with.

I do not think that Kvothe has ever killed any poet. I believe that the 'poet-killer' nickname is simply a natural evolution from the definition Kvothe gave it: part of a poem/ the break in a verse. It seems reasonable that most people would find that name rather boring, and certainly not in line with the rumors about Kvothe. So, somewhere along the line the name is changed to the poet killer.

When Kvothe first hears this nickname, he seems surprised and a bit amused. This is not the reaction of someone who learns that a murder in his past is a common story. We know that Kvothe has long been interested in how stories change over time, and I believe that he has just made the natural connection.

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Caesura! In one of my History major books. I found it funny because I only know the meaning of this world thanks to the Kingkiller Chronicle.
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Figuring out where to place caesuras?

I'm generally competent in scanning but I struggle with locating the caesura. I know the general rule of thumb is to place it in the third foot, but this often sounds rushed to me. For instance: take the line "unius ob noxam et furias Aiacis Oilei" from the Aeneid. I image the "right" answer is to put the caesura between "et" and "furi," in the middle of the third foot. But this sounds rushed to my ear. I prefer to it between "as" and "A" in the next foot. Is placing the caesura a strictly objective thing or is, to some degree, a matter of taste?

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I was able to finally mount Caesura next to AndurΓ­l. Absolutely wowed by the craftsmanship of Kvothe’s blade.
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How to write Caesura mark/Virgule/slash in a Gothic script?

I'm writing down a poem that I wrote. It divides each line into two halves that are separated with |. How would that (or possibly /) look in a blackletter hand?

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Scansion help with Ovid amores 1.9 - hi! Could someone help me scan the first 6 lines of this in elegiac couplet marking the major caesura?
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Anyone bother sharpening Caesura fourcornersforge.com/caes…
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What caesura/break separates the high republic era from the Prequel era?

In a clip for the Chinese exclusive "silver oath" novel, it is claimed the high republic ends 50 years before TPM.

So there must've been some kind of caesura.

For example, the medieval times ended roughly around 1500 because of Columbus finding America 1492, the turks conquering Constantinople 1453 or the whole printing with movable letters (1450) to Martin Luthers thesis in 1517.

In Star Wars we also have caesuras to end eras.

The Sith being destroyed at Ruusan and the founding of the Galactic Republic, was the ending of the old republic era.

And of course the end of the clone wars, Palpatine becoming emperor and so on is then the end of the Prequel era.

But what separates the Prequel era from the high republic?

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[Lore] Caesura

When the sun was rising, climbing above Casterly Rock to cast its light upon the Sunset Sea, the waters themselves seemed to have turned gold, the peaks of the waves glinting in the light as they shone. At the foot of the Rock, no doubt, ripples of light reflected off the wave-caps danced across the yellow stone. Denna enjoyed it, looking out. It felt right to her, as she stood atop a balcony, leaning against a doughty stone rail, her loose brown hair dancing in the wind. It felt like her place. Castamere was where she had been born, where she had grown up. It was a beautiful place, a mysterious place if one knew where the mysteries hid. But it was so mundane, so martial. Wondrous, in the way a dozen other castles were wondrous, all the way across Westeros. Casterly Rock though, was so uniquely splendid. Towering, grandiose, spectacular, so full of art and majesty and intrigue. She belonged here. She intended to stay here.

Still, she knew it was unwise to dwell unduly on such thoughts. People who seemed lost in thought all their days came across as untrustworthy, and the last thing Denna needed was to be seen as untrustworthy. The last thing any King wanted was a Queen he could not trust. She put all those thoughts aside, as she returned to her chamber, and quickly washed herself before getting dressed for the day. She dabbed a perfume, a faint scent of lilac and honeysuckle behind her ears and onto her wrists, she put a little oil onto her comb, and brushed it through her hair, a hundred strokes on each side, until it shone, rich and lustrous as the waves themselves, with its own distinctive scent. She wore a pale white shift, and a soft peach-coloured dress a trim of squirrel fur about the collar and cuffs that suited the autumn climes. It was a little stuffy for her tastes, but fashion, and the climate demanded it. As her mother had scolded her on many a chilly autumn morn, You shan’t look very pretty when you freeze to death young lady. She smiled, wondering just what her mother would make of all this. Her mischievous younger daughter, scheming to be queen.

Her duties brought her to the chambers of the Queen Regent, her flowing hair held back by a band of silver, set with small rubies, a decoration she would not normally wear in less formal surrounds. She curtsied before Mariah, holding her lyre to one side, and then took a seat on the plush divan she usually chose, and strummed idly, wondering whether it would be wise to meet the Queen’s gaze. The

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I know I’m late to the party, but I love Ben’s use of caesuras in the book
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(Daily Definition) Caesura: a break or pause in the middle of a verse line

I'm nobody! Who are you?

Are you nobody, too?

Then there's a pair of us β€” don't tell!

β€” I'm Nobody ! Who are you?, Emily Dickinson

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[f][c'tan] Caesura

CAESURA


Listen.

The voices that command this universe, those that speak the language of power, never allow themselves to be heard.

They are whispers on quantum foam. They are flickers in time with distant constellations. They emerge from the random rancour of a riot. What orders a flock of birds to take flight, all at once? What prompts the sudden hush of a crowded room? What delivers realisation in the quiet after a lie? White noise. Radio static. Messages. Ripples. The universe bowing before a greater power.

For a long time, that power was you.

You lived beneath the skin of stars. You fed. You grew. You roamed as you pleased. The span of years was nothing to you, nor were the eyeblink lives of other species. They could not harm you, nor interrupt your feasting. They were beneath your notice.

But you were not above theirs.

Do you remember the first tentative touching of minds? How the syllables of your speech haemorrhaged their eyes and ears? Your language undid them. They were enamoured with the sound of your voice, and you sang so proudly, so surely. Let the moth burn itself upon the candle of your glory. You took little notice.

Then the Deceiver came amongst you. So aptly named. He of darkness and deceit. He of broken oaths. He said: look below. See the ziggurats and idols they raise in your names. See the priest-kings and philosophers who proclaim you the height of wisdom and power.

Such gratitude in their hymns! So mightily do they strive to add chorus to your cadenza, to sing with but a sliver of your ability. They would give up their very souls.

And look: they, your loyal servants, these faithful creatures, have made for you a chariot. A body of exotic metal, so that you may experience all the pleasures and delights of the material universe. So that you may sup on the banquet of life itself, the richest of morsels - the very energy of being. And they ask for so little in return! Simple freedoms. Protection against another species. Trivial things.

Gladly, you accept. You assume the form they have lovingly fashioned, that of one of their long-lost pantheon. Yes. It is right that they venerate you. You are a god, are you not? So you speak. You command. You send out your new vassals, once frail creatures of flesh and bone, now forged anew in silver and steel.

Bite by bite, you become ensnared in the web of their lives.

You experience the joys of this new realm. The thrill of battle. The glutting of souls. The anger of b

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Was able to hang my two swords today. β€œAndurΓ­l the Flame of the West” and β€œCaesura” from The Wise Mans Fear. Wowed by their craftsmanship.
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Caesura's Atas

Just had a laugh thinking about the next poor soul to have to recite Caesura's Atas after Kvothe owning it. Makes you wonder how long his section would be and exactly how much of his story they would have to recite. That or it would be something super short like "Next came Kvothe who died as a bartender"

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There are many like it, but this one is mine. First Edition Caesura # 0861/5000 from, and to support, Worldbuilders.
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Caesura and Folly

So I'm re listening to the wise man's fear and something occurred me about Kvothe's sword. Apologies ahead of time if this has been talked about already.The first thing I realized is that people refer to it in stories as Kaysera the poet killer, and I thought about how they can't use the real name in a story because that would give people that hear it the power over it (which got me thinking about how every story we hear probably uses fake names, but that's a whole nother thread) The second thing is that it's called the poet killer in those stories, and Vashet talks a lot about her poet king which is widely speculated, if not confirmed, to be king Roderic. So obviously this seems like this sword is what kills the king and my theory is that this action causes the swords true name to be changed to Folly which is the sword that Kvothe is hanging on the wall in the tavern in the present day.

The counterpoint to this is that that Ben writes in Rhetoric and Logic saying "beware of folly" and some speculation on the Wiki page says that Folly might be the name of Cinder's sword and that Kvothe should beware of it, but instead Kvothe kills Cinder and takes his sword. But 'Beware of folly" could also be Ben saying to be careful and don't let your pride get in the way of smart decisions, so maybe killing the king was an impulse decision based on pride, which leads to the swords name to be changed to folly (and maybe thats when Kvothe becomes Kote). Another quote in the book (I'm not sure of the page) says the pride and folly go well together.

What do you guys think?

Edit - Right after posting this thread i started thinking too about how maybe Ambrose is able to climb the political and royal ladder (all while being a terrible poet), maybe while Kvothe is off for his book 3 adventure. Kvothe leaves, comes back, finds out that Ambrose is king and decides to take the matter into his own hands.

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Saicere, or Caesura and a speculative destiny of the sword (theory)

The people that frequent the Waystone Inn refer to Kvothe's sword as Kaysera the Poet-killer. What poet did kvothe kill? What king did kvothe kill? Perhaps they are the same person. Vashet mentions several times about the king she served in the small kingdoms and refers to him as her "poet king". Kvothe, being good at naming things, thinks of his sword as Caesura, the break in the line of poetry in eld vintic poetry mentioned by Sim. I cant help to think of Kvothe's renaming of the sword to this foreshadowing his killing of a poet king who is mentioned plenty of times before Kvothe gets his sword.

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"Caesura", a digital painting I did using the one and only Mxmtoon as a reference!
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Kvothe still has Caesura

So, a general agreement on this subreddit is that Kvothe sent Caesura back to Ademre when he faked his death. I would like to take a look from the other side. I believe that Kvothe still has Caesura at the Waystone.

So, in WMF, we see Aaron say he is taking up the King's Coin. When he does, Kote tries to tell him he is Kvothe. He puts himself immediately. He obviously doesn't want Aaron to fight in this war, because he believes he started it.

So, obviously, the Barbarian world needs to think Kvothe is dead. So, he fakes his death, and goes into hiding. But why would he not send a message to SOMEONE that he's still alive. He needs someone to know in the case that Kvothe needs to make a return.

My theory is that he did send a message, by not sending something. He kept Caesura. The Adem have no quarrels with the Barbarian world. They do not go bounty hunting. If there would be anyone that would keep the secret, it would be the Adem.

Caesura would be a perfect way to let them know. I think, Caesura is in the Thrice Locked Chest.

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It even has a caesura!
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Is there any proof that the sword in the frame is Caesura?

So I'm rereading the books, and I feel like Kvothe never gives an affirmative answer on whether or not the sword in the frame story is Caesura or not. Even Chronicler notes that it "looks different than how he described" and he kind of dodges the statement. The only other burnished sword that is really relevant in the story so far is Cinder's. Could it be his sword? What would the implications of this be? If it isn't Cinder's, then whose sword do y'all think it is?

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Caesura possible name meaning

Just saying, back when romans were around in what's nowadays Israel, they founded a city called Caesarea (comes from the name Julius Caesar)

Caesar also means Emperor in hebrew. Kvothe is called Kingkiller, his sword Caesura is dubbed poet-killer, and Vashet once escorted a prince who was a poet.

Make of that what you will.

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Kvothe's first kill with Caesura

The term Saicere means "to break, to catch, and to fly."

Here's the description of Kvothe's first kill with the blade:

>Caesura leapt, caught the moonlight briefly on her blade, and tore his throat.

In other words, Saicere flew, caught, and broke.

Blackened body of God, I love this series.

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New tattoo! β€œI drew it from its sheath. The faint ring of leather and metal seemed to whisper of its name: Saicere [...] I slid it back into its sheath and the sound was different. It sounded like the breaking of a line. It said Caesura."
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[HELP] I have to do a scansion of this poem and mark the caesuras. I’m not sure I’m doing it right.

I tried to watch a lot of videos and read about how to identify caesuras, but I’m still not sure I’m doing it right so I wanted to see if someone could check my work here or at the very least tell me in easier terms how to mark caesuras.

I’ll type out the poem and mark || where I put my caesuras. It’s β€œBoy At The Window” by Richard Wilbur. I’ll just type he first stanza for now.

Seeing the snowman || standing all alone ||

In dusk and cold is more than he can bear.

The small boy weeps || to hear the wind prepare ||

A night of gnashings and enormous moan.

His tearful sight can hardly reach to where

The pale-faced figure || with bitumen eyes ||

Returns him such a || god-forsaken stare

As outcast Adam gave to Paradise.

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Finally got Caesura Mounted. Any recommendations for a Sheath? I know WBM had a sheath at one point, but they don't anymore.
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Received Caesura for my birthday, looking for a sheath/scabbard.

As the title suggests, I received Caesura for my birthday from the Worldbuilders store and of course, it does not come with a sheath or scabbard. I regularly attend Renaissance fairs and would love to be able to take this with me as it is not a sword you see very often unlike more popular replicas such as LOTR/GoT. Unfortunately, I have not been able to find anything cheap/affordable that really fits this sword. I would love whatever suggestions you have to offer.

And yes, I know I can get a custom made scabbard for $170+, but like I said, looking for something more affordable that I won't worry about getting a little dusty at a fair.

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Caesura is a sealing sword

Not sure if this theory has ever been said but it struck me that the Ademre swords are magical and have existed for thousands of years (possibly crafted by the original namers/shapers?).

The Chandrian are immortal to traditional weapons so it makes sense that the only way to beat them would be to use the weapons of the original namers/shapers. We know that Pat loves drawing from traditional folk-lore so what if Caesure is a 'sealing' sword that seals what it cuts by cutting out their name. Possibly this is why it changed into Folly in the present day since Kvothe used it on the Chandrian but there was a side-effect that screwed up the world/fae balance.

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The replica of Caesura is now available for preoder if anyone's interested, link inside.

http://fourcornersforge.com/caesura/

$250 sale price for each, $17 ground shipping at least for me. Wanted to let the sub be aware since I've seen it mentioned that it was going to be available. Now just need to wait for the 10th anniversary edition.

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Scatter The Ashes -- Caesura [Alternative Rock] youtube.com/watch?v=TSj9P…
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Got my Caesura in yesterday! Ive been waiting almost a year for this.
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[Spoilers All] Caesura's age

In TWMF, Kvothe repeatedly remarks that his sword is at least two thousand years old, a rough estimate based on it's atas. However, it seems fairly obvious to me that's it's at least thrice that; partway through the atas an owner fought at Drossen Tor. Haliax, who is five thousand years old, became immortal after that battle.

Am I missing something, or is Kvothe?

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