Mixed Jews (ex. half Ashkenazi, half Sepharadi), let's have a thread.

Whether you are half Chassidish and half Teimani, or half Ashkenazi and half Nash Didan like me, I think we've all had some similar experiences.

I think something that hurts me the most is when I have to pick one way or the other to do something in Jewish culture, which is so focused on preserving heritage.

I also really hate it when people bring up "just follow the customs of your father," when 1) I have yet to see any textual source for this and 2) it grossly underestimates the struggle - this would only apply in a conflict, and if we all perfectly knew our minhagim, what would the purpose of a Rabbi be?

On the flip side, it's fun to get to choose to eat rice on Pesah!

What are some of your gripes? Thoughts? It's not often that I meet someone who is half and half.

EDIT: I promise I thought that flair said conversation, not conversion. Is changed.

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Any American Jew here who is not Ashkenazi, did you face racism, discrimination or instances of Anti-Semitism in the United States?

A lot of American Jews tend to be of Ashkenazi background. I have hardly met any Jews in America who are Mizrahi or Sephardic looking at least in my area. A lot of Ashkenazi Jews do have a history of intermarrying so there are Ashkenazi Jews that can pass of as less Jewish appearing and they do exist. However I am really curious of Jews in America who are of darker complexion than Ashkenazi, have you ever faced instances of racism, discrimination while also facing instances of Anti-Semitism? I am also curious of the experience of Ethiopian Jews in the United States and their experience with racism and Anti-Semitism?

Being of Middle Eastern heritage myself, I have definitely faced a good amount of racism, discrimination and harassment from White Americans and Non-Whites respectively. It is something that has certainly been an influential part of me growing up.

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Fully Egyptian but surprised with the srilankan ancestry and ashkenazi jew reddit.com/gallery/l7zybu
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DNA and the Origin of the Jews: Is there a genetic marker for cohanim (priests)? Are Ashkenazi Jews descended from Khazars? Why is there such a close genetic connection between Samaritans and Jews, especially cohanim? A look at what genetic testing can tell us about Jews. thetorah.com/article/dna-…
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Ashkenazi Jew, parents Holocaust survivors

I got my DNA results from ancestry.com a couple of weeks ago. Built a family tree, as best I could.

Hit many brick walls. It's like trying to construct a jigsaw puzzle with most of the pieces missing.

The best result so far is managing to connect my family tree to a distant cousin's. The connection is by marriage, not blood.

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California is trying to legalize an Ethnic studies program which Calls Ashkenazi Jews privileged, and separates them from the rest of Jews.

https://freebeacon.com/issues/describing-jews-as-privileged-ethnic-studies-curriculum-sparks-backlash/

If you read the link they provided, its much worse. Ashkenazi culture is ignored, Sephardic and Mizrahi culture is ignored, and it specifically separates Mizrahi and Sephardic as Jews which have undergone suffering in the US, and Ashkenazis as a privileged group. My grandfather was denied from 3 colleges they told him he would get into if he wasn't Jewish, and my great aunt was denied from a job as a Lawyer for being Jewish (of all things)! It also includes parts of their lessons directly from Linda Sarsour. Ashkenazis, Sephards and Mizrahi have unique cultures, but we are all Jews, and all face anti-semitism.

Please spread the word.

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My Mexican Grandmother in Acapulco, Mexico. Her father was an ashkenazi jew from Odessa and her mother the daughter of French immigrants. 1950’s.
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Found someone who finally beat Ethan as an Ashkenazi Jew vm.tiktok.com/ZMe6TwmcX/
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I don't know who my father is- my DNA says I'm half Ashkenazi Jew. Am I Jewish?

I am very interested in my heritage since I don't know much about who my family is. So if my DNA says half Ashkenazi, how do I say to someone that I'm "like" half Jewish? I do not know the difference between being "a Jew" and practicing the religion.

Please be kind! I was never raised to understand any of this. I have never met my father either, so I couldn't ask him.

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Shared haplogroup between morrocan and ashkenazi jews?

So the biggest ashkenazi haplogroup within H1 is H1e
It is also extremely common in Morrocan jews my 2 questions are A) Are they the same? B) How did it become so common in jews (including me)?

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Why did the Ashkenazi Jews largely stop speaking Yiddish?

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Los Angeles born Irish Ashkenazi Jew?
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So do Conservative Jews believe in the Messiah, or they hold like the reform and the other progressive non Israeli, Ashkenazi movements that the messiah/messianic figure is merely figurative ?
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Could somebody translate the letter? I’m pretty sure it’s Russian. Both sides of my family are ashkenazi Jews from Russia but we don’t really know much of anything about our family when they still lived there. We just found this picture in our house recently. Thanks everyone!
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My Mexican Grandmother in Acapulco, Mexico. Her father was an ashkenazi jew from Odessa and her mother the daughter of French immigrants. 1950’s.
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Ashkenazi Jews living in Azerbaijan, having gathered today in a synagogue in Baku, offered up prayers for the success of the Azerbaijani army in fierce battles for the restoration of the territorial integrity of Azerbaijan. Thank you brothers Jews! reddit.com/gallery/j7u3x5
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R1A-Z93 in Ashkenazi Jews

Why is there such a high occurence of R1A-Z93 among the Ashkenazi Jews?

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Found out I’m 35% Ashkenazi Jew, had no idea lol! I was born in Russia to a single Russian mom & didn’t know my dad. Turns out he was mostly Jewish I guess. Does this make me Jewish? Pretty neat discovery :) reddit.com/gallery/kdxu82
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Ashkenazi is a type of jew...
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Can anyone give me some historical context how for how an Ashkenazi Jew got Japanese/Cypriot trace ancestry and also french/german? All of my parents and grandparents are pure Russian Jews (Moldova) reddit.com/gallery/kc5cmi
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Ex-Israeli envoy reveals large number of Ashkenazi Jews lived in Cairo jpost.com/diaspora/ex-isr…
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Surprised by my Mother’s Trace Ancestry result. Where would .2% Manchurian and Mongolian come from for an Ashkenazi Jew?
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Suprised by 49% Ashkenazi Jew results and 30% shared DNA w/ an unknown relative - now what?

So...I got my results on Saturday (11/7) about 2 weeks earlier than anticipated.

My family is incredibly small as far as I've ever known here in America, with roots in the midwest. There aren't any deep family records and no one has ever really bothered to dig into our genealogy.
Years ago, I loosely discovered my surname to be something Welsh/British/Germanic, and my mother's maiden name also Welsh. I always assumed I was 100% Northwestern European and never took the time to dig too much deeper than that.

Fast forward to opening my 23andMe results, and I was (okay, I still am...) stunned to see 48.6% Ashkenazi Jew. I know this might also mean there is more Eastern European or Middle Eastern than what 23andMe is showing, but I'm not entirely sure. I also discovered 29.6% DNA shared with a person listed as an Aunt, though I've never met this person or heard them mentioned before in my life.

I don't know what to make of the info and thought I'd come to Reddit to see if there are any other similar experiences, popular posts, or insight I might be able to turn to. I'm not expecting anything earth shattering but before I go deeper into the wormhole and share anything with my parents and family members, I want to do my due diligence.

Thanks!

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Ashkenazi Jews

I have a few questions about Ashkenazi Jews.

  1. if 'Ashkenazi Jew' wasn't a category, what would the result of an Ashkenazi Jew be on average? Would it be half Middle eastern and half European?

  2. are there any other groups with unique genetic 'signatures/genes like Ashkenazi Jews? I'm sure they'd be a few such endogamus groups. Why don't they have their seperate groups?

  3. Do all Jews have a lot of ancestry from the Middle East? Are (non Ashkenazi) Jews generally homogeneous as well?

  4. Lastly this question is to Ashkenazi Jews living in the US/UK/Canada (or any other place outside of Southern or Eastern Europe). When someone asks you where you are from, do you reply by saying you are Jewish or do you say you are European with Middle eastern ancestry?

The Jewish religion/genes have always fascinated me. If someone would answer my questions about Ashkenazi Jews, i would greatly appreciate it.

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TIL There is a gene mutation which gives almost complete protection against HIV. 1% of Caucasians have the mutation, but among the Ashkenazi Jews of Eastern Europe, the rate is as high as 15%. theglobeandmail.com/techn…
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Ashkenazi Jew + Irish Appalachian

Just wondering if there are 1) anyone else with this very specific combination and 2) how do you include both sides or acknowledge both sides of your heritage?

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Are Ashkenazi Jews white?

I’ve heard conflicting information about this. Most of the Jews I know (especially the secular ones) consider themselves white and look white, but I don’t really know.

Separate but related question: why are Greeks considered white but Turkish people not? Where does β€œwhite” end and β€œMiddle Eastern” begin?

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Ashkenazi Jew Genes

Hey I’m pretty hesitant to post anything here, I never really talked about this but recently I’ve noticed how much I’ve been doubting my roots and anti Semitism has broke me down :( My grandfather who is full Ashkenazi who was born during the Holocaust period in US (he had cousins who went through it in Austria at the time) converted to Catholicism around 20 and completely left his roots behind. He just refers to himself as ethnically Austrian not Ashkenazi. This man can definitely pass in Israel and neighboring countries as a local but anyways...my mom was the complete opposite. She taught me the religion, and made middle eastern food, taught me about my Israeli roots and would read me stories about it. I grew up with my mom saying that we’re middle eastern, we’re Jews that should be proud and I really identified with that and my Italian side from my dad but my mom was way more present in my life and taught me way more about my roots. When I was young people would laugh at me because I identified as Middle Eastern and Jewish and throughout time with all the comments I see and hear from people from we’re fake Jews, we are full European, Russian communists (don’t even ask), the k word, genetic mutations etc. I’ve been so insecure. People always say Ashkenazi’s are just Eastern European and I’m tired of it but I can’t lie and say it’s made me doubt myself. I don’t have any Jewish friends, but I’m actually starting a job at a Moroccan restaurant (family is Sephardic) Im so excited to connect with my roots. I guess I just want to connect with other Jews or people with Jewish DNA and be confident in my roots again.

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Did the ancient tribes of Israel look more similar to today's Sephardic or Ashkenazi Jews?

Any papers or reading material about this topic?

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Where are Ashkenazi Jews from? Their Origins May Surprise You ancient-origins.net/human…
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Grandmother is getting up there in years and β€œadmitted” that she was Jewish and that she’s an Ashkenazi Jew

So this is a weird story and I’m still figuring it out. And after you read through this I guess I’m looking for advice/feedback?

My grandma decided to tell me and my sisters out of nowhere that she was actually Jewish religiously and ethnically?(I’m sorry if this is wrong in some way but she said ashkenazi which I’m thinking is an ethnicity?) The way she explained it to me, was that her family came to America from France(Jewish mother and black jewish father) and settled in the south. But they faced a lot of discrimination. However her and her sisters passed as white so they were treated better. Somewhere along the lines her and her sisters decided they would just pretend to be fully white and catholic so they could just overall be treated better.

My grandmother moved to the west coast, got married to a catholic, had kids and just never talked about any of this. I met my great grandmother once but it was when I was extremely young, so young I can barely remember and she was really old(I think she hit 90). But we were never really told stories or anything about our family and I never asked because I never really thought about it. It was to the point where I didn’t even know I had cousins still living in the south. My grandmother explained that the reason we never hear from our cousins is because they’re still pretending to be fully white and that because me and my sisters are black(our father is black and we are not white passing) they wouldn’t want to jeaporeize the image they’ve built up.

I summed it up as best as I could but anyway it felt like she told us because of coronavirus and I guess she was worried that if she got it she would pass without us ever knowing. The whole conversation had a really sad tone and I feel like she really regrets the decisions she made but also some of the stories of how her parents were treated made me understand why she did it.

So anyway with knowing all this now, I’ve been thinking about maybe learning about Judaism? The thing is I definitely have this weird feeling of being an imposter. Like it’s not that I expect to fully convert just because of this confession but I feel like at the very least I should learn about it, especially since I’ve never met any other family member from that side. I apparently have family that never left France and presumably never β€œconverted” but I doubt I’ll ever be able to meet them or even find them.

I don’t know I guess it’s just a lot to take in. What would be considered overstep

... keep reading on reddit ➑

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A result of an Ashkenazi jew
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If you're an Ashkenazi Jew with Mexican descendancy born in Israel, are you white, latino or middle-eastern?

And you're also white-passing.

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Mizrahi religious Jews: Why do you dress like Ashkenazis? youtube.com/watch?v=gCWTK…
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What were the views of Ashkenazi Jews in Germany/France, towards slavery in the early 1800s?

Doing some genealogy, I discovered that my triple-great grandfather, an Ashkenazi Jew who had migrated from Alsace to Louisiana in 1820, owned a slave for several years. This led to some soul-searching, and also raised further questions for me. I'm curious if there are any documents showing what Ashkenazi Jews in Europe thought of American slavery at that time.

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Ancestry: More info for Ashkenazi? (I’m a practicing Jew)

So I did 23 and Me and my results were 99.5% Ashkenazi. I knew it would be that. In fact I’m surprised that there was even a .5% anything else (and it was Levantine so not so far from base).

My question - does anyone know of what one does with these results? Can someone explain to me why I can’t tell if I’m a polish jew or Russian jew but I’m just generally Jewish? I got the test for free (for covid research) so it’s not like I went in thinking I’d find anything. And my father is deceased and no immediate male family except nephews that are too young.

So basically, should I just forget about the DNA leading anywhere or are there more places to look?

Thanks for any response!

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Is there any historical record to back up claims that Ashkenazi Jews have slight North-African ancestry?

I've heard that the reason many Ashkenazi Jews have curly hair is due to intermarriage in North Africa, possibly sometime soon after the destruction of the second temple. I've found some articles that draw comparisons between "Black hair" and "Jewish hair", but nothing that actually discusses any genetic link between them, or any historical evidence to commingling between those populations. I've also seen some claims from Jews saying they found North-African ancestry through a DNA test, within the margins of about 3%. Is there any validity to these claims?

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Is the stereotype that the majority of Ashkenazi jews have curly hair true?
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Any American Jew here who is not Ashkenazi, did you face racism, discrimination or instances of Anti-Semitism in the United States?

A lot of American Jews tend to be of Ashkenazi background. I have hardly met any Jews in America who are Mizrahi or Sephardic looking at least in my area. A lot of Ashkenazi Jews do have a history of intermarrying so there are Ashkenazi Jews that can pass of as less Jewish appearing and they do exist. However I am really curious of Jews in America who are of darker complexion than Ashkenazi, have you ever faced instances of racism, discrimination while also facing instances of Anti-Semitism? I am also curious of the experience of Ethiopian Jews in the United States and their experience with racism and Anti-Semitism?

Being of Middle Eastern heritage myself, I have definitely faced a good amount of racism, discrimination and harassment from White Americans and Non-Whites respectively. It is something that has certainly been an influential part of me growing up.

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