I've spent more money in the past 5 years on appliance repair/replacement than the previous 20 combined. What in the hell gives? I cannot comprehend why the hell everything has a massive motherboard and so many shitty electrical components? Most recently I've been victim to replacing my Honeywell gas valve on the water heater - for the second time in 2 years. Why does this piece of shit need a motherboard!
Edit: for those saying "stop buying cheap", idk what kind of money you're rolling in. $3k fridge, $2k washer/dryer sets, $900 water heater, $1k ovens etc. are not cheap. And the argument that you get what you pay for is garbage. Why are cheaper appliances but with no extra frills garbage consistently showing reliability then well beyond their "smart" counterparts?
This is especially true for appliances that you use very often or which are continuously on (such as a fridge).
Depending on the appliance and the country you live in, there might be a value in db (decibel) written on a sticker on the appliance or it can be found in the specification sheet. Decibel is a logarithmtic value, so a few decibels less make a huge difference for your comfort (and health).
For loud appliances (e.g. lawnmowers) you should wear hearing protection whenever you use them.
Today I went through my kitchen cabinets, and I managed to get rid of a LOT of things.
Some Tupperware I didn't like anymore
A fancy kitchen chopper machine that I used maybe once
A popcornmachine, also used once or twice
Potato chips maker, never used it
I put it all on a local Facebook group for free stuff, and even though it's not all out of my house yet, I feel so much better already.
The rest of my kitchen was pretty cleaned up already, we do have a bit more dishes than most minimalists would probably have, but my boyfriend often likes to cook a bit 'fancy', so everything we have gets used often.
C - Customer | M - Me
C: “Can I get my fridge delivered for tomorrow?”
M: “I’m sorry, sir. This soonest available delivery date for this fridge is 12/29. Will that work with your schedule?”
C: “The 29th?! I CANNOT wait that long. Why can’t it be tomorrow?”
M: “I understand the frustration. They have to ship the fridge from the manufacturer before it reaches the delivery agency, and then the agency schedules your delivery window.”
C: “So you’re telling me I’m fucked and just to deal with it?”
M: “No, sir. I do apologize for this inconvenience, but perhaps we can find an alternate model that has an earlier delivery date?”
C: “But I don’t want an alternate model, I want this one. Why is it so hard to get me this one?”
M: “I agree, the wait time is ridiculous but I would love to help you. Unfortunately this model is in high demand, and is disallowing me to change the delivery date to an earlier date. However, this model has a delivery date of-“
C: “So fuck me, right? Is that what you’re saying? Fuck me? Because I’m feeling fucked right now.”
M: “Sir, please let me-“
C: “Fuck this. Let me speak to your fucking manager. This is the worst service I’ve ever gotten. You should be ashamed. I CAN’T BELIEVE you’re unwilling to help me.”
M: “Of course, one moment please.” :)
... currently waiting on hold to connect with my manager. And yes I’m crying lol
Our home is a new construction so we added the options of a refrigerator, washer, and dryer.
Unfortunately for us, by the time the house was ready, all those appliances were so far back ordered that we didn’t get them in time for move in. They refunded us for the cost (it was rolled into our mortgage). We didn’t know until just about a week before signing.
I wish we would have ordered right then and there. The washer and dryer were easy to obtain, got them within a week. But after one long grueling month of waiting and living off a mini fridge (family of 4)...we finally got the full sized fridge! Most were back ordered until FEBRUARY. So we got lucky getting one this month! But alas, tragedy struck...the original came in severely damaged. So we had to wait an additional 2 weeks for a replacement.
So my tip for everyone is if you need an appliance of any sort, order way ahead of time for new ones or just go for used ones. There were a lot out there we could’ve bought but chose to wait.
Sorry for rambling or if this is a dumb tip, but I wanted to help y’all out and not end up eating cup o noodles for a month lol
Oh. My. Gawsh!
The poor fridge has been struggling, and I was actually considering moving the purchase to the top of the Project List.
Until it dawned on m me - all the neglect I’ve found around the house itself, most likely carried over to the appliances, too!
Spent a few hours and saved $900-$1,500 that I didn’t want to spend yet. (I need to remove the hot water tank before I can get a new fridge, as modern units are 3” wider now.)
Images not for the squeamish.
Happy New Year to the poor fridge, may you breathe well this year so you can retire to Beer Fridge Duty next Autumn!
Hi all. I am wondering if there is anything I can do about this situation. I'm guessing not, but might as well ask!
In December I viewed an apartment. It was the exact unit I was renting (not a model unit or something) and at that time it had brand new, very nice appliances - a 28 cu ft fridge with water/ice dispensers, a nice electric stove, a dishwasher, a microwave. They were all matching stainless steel. I like entertaining for dinners etc. so having a nice kitchen is important to me and these were big pluses, as well as the nice big fridge as we have a family of 5 = full fridge.
It also had a laundry room with nice, new HE laundry machines with high capacities, which with a family of 5 we do a LOT of laundry, so I loved the big machines as well.
The nice new modern appliances were easily a factor in choosing this apartment over another apartment. I even chatted about it with the agent showing me the place and she was chiming in about how great they are, showing me features on the fridge, etc. She told me that the unit used to have crappy old appliances, but the guy who owned the building bought a new house for himself and wanted to bring his old appliances to it, meaning he didn't need the appliances the house came with, and he didn't think they'd sell for much so he had them put in one of the apartments instead.
On January 1st they sent an email informing me that a couple maintenance people would be coming to the apartment at 3PM Jan 2nd for a couple maintenance items they were unable to complete sooner due to the holiday. I didn't think much of it and it didn't mention specifics.
I picked up keys at 8AM on January 2nd and we moved in that morning, and all appliances were there. We were away from 2PM to 7PM cleaning up the old place and when we came back, the nice appliance were missing and replaced by crappy older versions. The fridge was switched out with the smallest fridge I've ever seen, the electric glass top stove was switched with a 40 year old gas stove. The only remaining item was the microwave in the kitchen. In the laundry room the separate washer and dryer were switched to a top-bottom dryer-washer combo thing that is less than half the capacity of the original washer. The fridge is so stupidly small that the maintenance guys couldn't even move all our freezer food - they filled up the new freezer and a bunch of things didn't fit, so they just left a bunch of frozen food on the counter.
I contacted the office immediately and he... keep reading on reddit ➡
Almost five years in, have 10 doors almost all SFH in LCOL area.. By far my biggest headache has been washer/dryer issues. Initial logic was having laundry included would make my units more appealing and possibly command slightly more rent. NOT worth it. Unless you are going to install brand new stuff, or are hands on and handy I can't recommend it. Whenever I have turnover the first thing I do is remove them. Even stuff that doesn't break down mechanically I've had to pull children's socks or loose change out of the washer water pump etc. Tenants will wear them out. Now I just point and say
"There's your laundry hookups"
Edit: To say tenants who provide their own machines don't seem to mistreat them and never call me with a laundry issue. If they can move their own furniture in and out, they can move modern machines.
Edit emphasis and also I didn't say anything about not providing fridge and stove. those are normally included where I live.
If you head over to r/frugal there is a post about how $180 saved a homeowner money.
I wasn’t aware that you could install a whole house surge protector, but folks in the r/frugal thread have shared ample tips and success stories.
The idea is spend $200 or less and install a whole house surge protector so that in the event of lightning strike, transformer surge or main electricity wires being damaged your home is protected.
Stoves, ovens, TVs, washers, dryers, dishwashers, sump pumps, well pumps, computers, etc are all items that can be destroyed by sudden power surges.
It looks like this is a worthy $200 prep to consider.
Simple rules: Leave an interesting comment :)
I'll describe you as curtains, a sofa, or maybe even the toilet! However this won't just be a normal description. It'll have your personal characteristics to it. Enter this activity at your own risk!
Additionally, I'll try to link a picture of you. Maybe it'll inspire you to buy yourself some new home items
Do you know what material your condensing appliance is vented with? Have you ever thought about it? Me either.
Many of these condensing appliances were installed, per the recommendation of their respective manufacturers, with PVC or CPVC flue vents - specifically, solid-core Schedule 40 pipe commonly available at any home improvement or plumbing supply store. It's been the go-to solution as a cheaper alternative to Schedule IV Stainless Steel flues for over a decade now and no one questioned it until recently.
Turns out these appliance manufacturers never really checked with with the pipe manufacturers and based their claims of compatibility on just a few years worth of their own data before concluding it as an acceptable material to use as a flue vent. The problem is PVC has a maximum temperature rating of 140F, while CPVC is 200F, and many of these appliances not only operate higher than those temperatures normally, the less efficient the appliance is the higher the temperature of the flue gasses are (eg a 90% efficient boiler operating at 180 may vent at 190+). And an improperly maintained or poorly functioning appliance may have an even greater differential. There are also concerns about the acidity and other characteristics of the condensate which is notorious for destroying most materials it comes in contact with, given enough time. The point is, if you contact any PVC/CPVC manufacturer, they will tell you in no uncertain terms that they do not support this application at all - they recognize the dangers here and don't want anything to do with it.
So why is this a big deal and how does it affect you? Eventually, traditional PVC/CPVC will fail and start pumping toxic Carbon Monoxide into your building. It may not happen all at once, but start with a small crack or fracture and only to get worse with time, all the while destroying your structure, causing considerable property damage, and worse.
This isn't hypothetical either, there are already instances of this happening as early as 2008 where a family of four died of Carbon Monoxide poisoning in Aspen, CO from a failed PVC flue vent. I have personally experienced this in my own home which is what led me down this rabbit trail to begin with, and have since learned that the Consumer Product Protection Association reported an 11% increase in unintentional CO poi... keep reading on reddit ➡
To much talk of making more money in here lately. Let’s talk about spending it.
What adds have you made that made the home life better? Looks like we’re gonna be home another 10 months. Let’s enjoy it.
I’m looking at some home air filters with UV filters. Our place will have air cleaner than an operating room, an allergy sufferers oasis.
Also looking at the Herman Miller Eames Lounge chairs. Does anyone have/like those? We have a salt water reef tank and looking for the most comfortable thing to sit and lounge in.
What do you guys have that you love that makes home life better.
I have a 4 year old bose headphone that needs a minor repair. I tried searching for the component online and found that on Amazon it is around Rs. 1.5k. The exact same product on global sites like AliExpress is just Rs. 300. I will be paying 5 times the price for nothing.
I am in full support of make in India and India in products. My car is a Tata not just because it is indian but also because it is the safest in the segment. My home AC is an Onida and washing machine is from IFB. But why should I be forced to pay 5 times the amount for the same Chinese product?
The government has been talking about atmanirbhar Bharat, but where are the electronics assembly lines for products like headphones, speakers, even Laptops? This country does not have even a single semicon fab and government expects it to be atmanirbhar. Countries like Taiwan and china got their fabs because of government backing, and of course stolen IP. But we haven't even succeeded in getting a single large fully owned mnc fab yet!
India is going back to the license raj. Expect to see a big black market for small repair components and electronics soon.
We can all agree that a fridge/freezer, oven, microwave and sink are essential. But what other appliances legitimately earn the space they take up in a domestic kitchen?
Background - I'm slowly building up a new kitchen and looking to choose the most optimal selection of appliances to minimise the space wasted on things of limited use. For example, in my current kitchen, the stand mixer was only taken out and used a handful of times a year. Most cream was whipped by a hand mixer, and most pastries were mixed in a bowl and kneaded by hand. For most small cutting jobs like say, an onion or two, it's quicker to cut by hand than to use the food processor and have to go through the extra cleanup.
I've stumbled across a new breed of hand mixer that have three attachments - either a whisk, or an immersion blender, or a small bowl with chopping blades (like a little food processor). It seems like a really good idea as these are the three functions I most frequently use appliances for. I do wonder though whether the smallish single whisk will be up to the job when most hand mixers use a pair of whisks.
There is some overlap between appliances when it comes to chopping though. Our costly Kenwood stand mixer has a shredder attachment (that however has very many parts to wash up). Our food processor can run grating/chopping disks so it can do the job as well (though there's a huge clearance between the feed chute and the disc so it always leaves a huge chunk of uncut vegetable at the end of every piece).
I've also seen dedicated chopping machines that run drums (cylinders) with blades (for slicing cucumbers or grating cheese for example) however the machine is about the size of a food processor so I wonder whether it makes sense to go for one when a food processor can probably do more things for the same amount of counter/cupboard space usage.
If you’re getting a delivery of a large appliance like a fridge or cooker etc, if it doesn’t fit through the front door what is the alternative if you have no other way?
We just got a freestanding freezer H171 x W60 x D65 from AO delivered but it wouldn’t fit through the front door. Luckily our kitchen is at the back of the house (with french doors leading to the garden) and we have a garage with a door to the garden so we could go around the back. Although due to Covid, AO could only leave it in our garage and now we have to figure out how to carry an 80kg+ freezer into the house.
So I was making waffles in my sunbeam waffle maker and realized I’ve never used a more dangerous appliance in my life. However it makes the best waffles and grilled cheese sandwiches so there is no way I’m tossing it. Some pics for those satisfying waffle pictures:
I worked for Sears appliance repair and have troubleshot most appliances around the house. I cannot count how many times I have heard customers complain about buying a pair of brand new washing machine/dryer sets and wishing they had their old set back. Not only this, but I’ve picked up the tricks to making appliances last. After having worked on the newer ones vs older, used appliances, this is what I’ve learned:
DON’T USE TOO MUCH SOAP!! People make this mistake all the time. Especially with washing your clothes, brands will sell you a detergent with the cap that has measurements on it. Never use these measurements. Even the lowest measurement is too much. If you are washing a normal sized load of laundry, all you need is 1 tablespoon of detergent. Yes, you read that correctly. Towels/blankets can use maybe 2 tablespoons. The reason for this is because most marketed detergents will have a little sticker on it that says “HE”. This means it is high efficiency, or in other words really really really really concentrated soap. 1 tablespoon of HE detergent is equal to about 1/4-1/2 cup of soap. If you were to add 1/2 cup of HE soap, it creates an over abundant amount of suds for your washer. Too many suds can cause balance displacement and mess up your suspension. If you have a washer that senses the moisture content of the clothes, the extra suds can cause your washer to work overtime to get rid of them. This causes the motor/shaft to wear out faster. The extra oil in the suds can also trickle down easier into the shaft and cause rust. Lastly, too much detergent will cause more mildew build up between the tub and basket of the washer.
That being said, never ever ever buy Tide Pods. They are expensive and will wreck your washer/dishwasher. Too much detergent.
Never use dryer sheets. They will coat your lint trap with wax and ultimately cause house fires. Also, get your dryer cleaned often! Lint doesn’t always stick to the lint trap. It can escape and get into the heating element, causing it to light up into flames. Open up the dryer and vacuum out the lint, or use a wet rag to wipe it up.
The salesman is quick to sell you on all the new gadgets, functions, and color of the appliance. DO NOT LISTEN TO HIM/HER! Say you are on the market for a washer/dryer. The big boy sets will have any function you want. It’ll have crazy settings specifically for bedding, towels, whites, delicates, self cleaning. Looks awesome... but in fact this is pointless
I haven't seen a kitchen tool discussion for a while so thought I'd start one since we love our gadgets.
Kamado grill - technically not an appliance but this best gets used about 4 times a week. The smoke flavor is awesome.
Ninja foodi 8 qt - our gowise air fryer is on its last legs and even though we have an instant pot, we decided to get the foodi. The quality of the enamel bowl and sure fryer basket are far superior to the stand alone AF and the larger capacity means it's ready to do a whole chicken or 7-8 stuffed peppers and have enough for two days.
Milk frother - when we moved into our condo there was a Nespresso milk frother unused in the box. Friends were over and talking about latte and other coffees so we gave it to them. Then they made a latte for Tony when we were at their place. We bought a much less expensive version to replace the nespresso and use it every day.
Sous vide - we still live the sous vide and even drilled a hike in the lid of a cooler so it would be more efficient but we don't use it as much because kamada is here.
Chaffle maker - I wanted to love it (them) but don't. We never got on a recipe that I find would be a good sub for a bun and I am not a big fan of subs for noon-keto.
Those are my most loved and most disappointing. How about yours?
One month of living in new apartment and Electric bill reads:
> Total: $170... 1464 kWh usage from Dec 11 - Jan 7
My last apartment I was astonished to pay $140 the first month in december when I moved in. Every previous apartment was no more than $90. And after moving to my current location I was looking forward to normal bills again...
We live on 3rd floor, I thought that would help in the winter
Apartment built in 2016 and are all very new unlike previous apartments
Is it just cold temperatures causing this? We aren't excessive with energy and I assume most of the bill is from AC/Heat/WD/DishWasher/HotWaterShowers
I disagreed with my GF about the following, and she thought I was just 'trying to be right' so I gave in for the time being:
TLDR: Is it more likely that our electric bill is $170 because its cold outside? and will doing things like unplugging appliances actually cause enough help for it to not drive us crazy?
I have found conflicting information online and nothing in the NEC about it. From what I have found it seems like it is good practice to have the fridge on a dedicated circuit but not required.
My kettle is graduated in cups, whereas like every other British person I've ever met, we drink our tea from mugs.
The toaster slots are not wide enough to take sliced bread on its side so that it all gets toasted
More and more appliances in today’s world are being designed to make them accessible over phone or be WiFi enabled for some kind of remote monitoring. As a result, these appliances come with certain features that are absolutely unnecessary. A refrigerator doesn’t really need to double up as a music player, tv or have cameras inside to monitor what’s stored on a real time basis. A toilet doesn’t really need built-in speakers or double up as a FM radio. Even a hairbrush and a toothbrush is not spared. So many more such gadgets that can do their jobs just as well and smartly without turning them “smart”!
I love when I get a call from a customer and he automatically starts screaming in my ear. He yells and tells me customer service and our delivery associate told him that his bosch dishwasher ( all Bosch dishwashers are on back order because all of India has bought them) was on back order. He ordered it on the 17th of December so he was wondering if his dishwasher would come on the expected date of 1/16. I told him yea it isnt a guaranteed. He yelled at me saying “ok are you going to talk or take action” I yelled at him back saying I don’t know what he wanted, his dishwasher is on back order and that’s it and that’s that. I gave him the option of getting another dishwasher and cancelling his order. I hate people that expect you to read their minds. I don’t know what you want, tell me so I can help you idiot. Am I the only person that loses patience at just bluntly getting disrespected, and then being expected to fulfill their desires, like wtf..
Front load washers are NOT better than top loads. The only actual positive I believe is that they’re more water efficient. Every other facet, top load wins. People say front loads clean better, I think that’s a myth and haven’t seen any proof. Front loads have way more maintenance issues, are heavier and harder to move, and stink. A front loader is constantly battling gravity, while a top loader works with gravity. It just makes sense. I think most people buy front loads because of the look. Don’t be dumb. Top load for life.
I moved into an apartment a few weeks ago. I've had problems with a few of the neighbors. One of them got mad at me for calling maintenence because they kept parking in my spot (it's assigned parking that I pay for, and I asked her twice to please move her car). The people that share a wall with me are confusing me, though. I get home from work about 7pm, and if I have loud things to do, I typically do them around 7:30-8pm. Vacumming, using power tools, etc. Haven't done it past 8:30. One night I was vacuuming, about 8pm. They start banging on the wall. Made a smoothie at 7:30pm. They bang on the wall. Practiced my instrument (brass, with a mute in) about 7:30pm, they bang on the wall. They haven't talked to me about it. If they had a weird work schedule and told me about it I'd do my best to respect that. But they haven't said anything, left a note, absolutely nothing. Quiet hours for the apartment are 11pm-7am, so I currently plan on ignoring them. AITA for doing this?
Update: consensus seems to be that I'm not an asshole. After reading everyone's advice, I've decided to ignore their banging, but the next time it happens, I will make note of the time and date, and call management the next day. Maybe I'll do some vacuuming tonight. Probably at 8pm!
We rented our house out due to being relocated for work for a year. The tenants were fine but they apparently tried to clean the stainless appliances in the kitchen with some abrasive materials, leaving scratches all over them. We're not there but a friend who knows the place who we had check the house out after they left noticed the damage and sent us photos.
Is this something that can be corrected easily? If not, how much would it cost? We have not returned their damage deposit yet but aren't sure how to deal with this.